Mr. Alsuezi:
It is with regret that after spending so much of my time trying to express in detail and in a logical reasonable fashion what my questions were, you do not even bother reading my posts and come up with some superficial illogical explanation of matters that make absolutely no sense.
I do not need to know how you respect me and my discussion with you when for example you say:
+++++I do not know what “scourge” means, but will take your word for it…
Your above statement is a proof that you either think I am so naïve and so stupid, or you genuinely want to hear what you like to hear and nothing else!
What I reference in my post (http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=16654287) regarding Quran promoting/advising men of wife beating, was taken word-by-word from the very first resource link you have provided in your introduction post on this very same thread – so it was not something I came up with.
Secondly I provided the link to the Webster Dictionary online (in that very same post) for you to seek out the meaning of the word “scourge” for yourself, and in fact I cut and pasted the exact meaning as it appeared in Webster for you in my post to read. This was done so you do not have to take my word for it for which it is Webster (the ultimate authority in the English language) that has defined it.
I do not need to go any further for which you do not even follow your own advice to others to read to better understand matters, and yet you expect others to read – and interestingly you only want people to read only those words that you would like them to read!
You ask people to read so they could understand about Islam better? What other valuable resource than Quran to better understand the religion. Yet you – a believer and defender of the Islamic faith – admittedly has no clue what Quran talks about, and when you are confronted with what Quran says that does not make sense, you dismiss it as being the word of God that you do not wish to question!!
I have nothing more to discuss with you for which you are: blindly following something (namely Islam) that you have no clue what it is about. You admittedly have no idea what Quran says, Eventhough you as a escape goat and in order to blindly defend the violence and evil acts that are attributed to Islam, continue to tell people to go ahead and read, and yet you – yourself – are not willing to read Quran (or for that matter the very same so called valuable resources on Islam that you have provided in your introduction post!. What do you think people are? So stupid? Hardly Mr. Alsuezi.
You keep telling others and me that you have addressed the wife beating ad vocation that is done in Quran, or the promotion of killing and destruction of non-Moslems that is encouraged in Quran. But why don’t you read your own explanations? No intelligent (or otherwise) individual on this planet is so blind to accept your explanations as anything but just babbling and trying to hide.
For God’s sake, and as I indicated, you do not need to be defensive about your religion, just admit it as it is. I have to give it to you that you have in fact admitted the fact that Quran does for example promote wife beating, and your explanation is that it is God’s wisdom that you do not wish to question. This is a start for you to accept the truth – the whole truth – and nothing but the truth, instead of trying to dance around it!
I do not think I will post anymore comments to you for which I believe it would be a waste of my time. Your responses are indeed typical of every Moslem I have come to meet. You people are like the followers of Jim Jones. You do not think for yourself, and do not wish to use your God given intellect to distinguish between the right and wrong. Instead you follow verses in Quran – without asking why – even if those verses end up inflicting pain, destruction and death to millions of innocent people on this planet. In a sense Islam is like a hard-core military cult and its followers – as they admit – are soldiers of this military. The generals consist of a handful of murderers and thugs calling themselves Mullahs, and the politicians in this militaristic framework consist of academia who under the umbrella of appearing as educated individuals reflect the voices of the Mullahs in a politically correct fashion.
I leave you with this thought, Mr. Alsuezi, it is the month of Ramazan. During this month a Moslem is supposed to be honest to himself and others. Be honest with yourself – if not no one else – and ask yourself, is what you are following a peaceful loving ideology? Ask yourself why Quran promotes wife beating? Why it even talks about killing and destruction of non- Moslems in the most horrific manner? Try to read Quran from beginning to the end during this month of Ramazan. Do what you have been telling others to do: Read about Islam, and there is not better source than Quran.
At the end if you still want to keep your eyes closed to the realities of Islam, then so be it. You have submitted yourself to Islam’s way of life. So do not be defensive about it. As a human being it is your right to live how you desire to do so. If the religion says that a Moslem man should beat his wife if she is not obeying him the way he wants her to do, then so be it. This is what the religion and faith says. You (and other Moslems) need not be defensive about it. If there are verses in Quran that says it is the duty of Moslems to kill and destroy non-Moslems then so be it. This is what the faith says. You as a Moselm should not be defensive about it.
The color of a red rose is red. No matter what happens that color remains red. One who likes a red rose (and perhaps for its smell and not necessarily its color), should not be defensive about its color being Red. One should not defend the red color of a red rose as being a dark orange, or a light purple, or a combination of yellow and Orange and Purple! There is nothing-wrong with a Red Rose being Red. It is just the way it is!
Should you decide to logically and completely read my post (and those indicated in the following post) word-by-word Message 16668209 and provide an intelligent response point-by-point we will continue our discussion, otherwise, do not waste your time responding to me. If you would like you can even go ahead and block me from your thread too as you have done so to many others. It is not I who is not seeking the truth, it is you who has oppressed his soul to seek out the truth. I will pray for you so God would help you use his gift of intellect to you in order to distinguish between the right and the wrong, and to seek the truth – the whole truth – and nothing but the truth.
Sincerely,
Mr. S. Stevenson |
