>> I don't recall the context, but my point was that the state must serve liberty or it is not a just state. A government that abuses liberties instead of acting to preserve them does not deserve the citizens' loyalty. The citizens would be right to change that government. Hence the American Revolution. <<
that is precisely the policies you advocate. an abuse of our liberties by our government.
>> For example, does the government have a proper role in ensuring educational opportunities for all children and, if so, how should government go about it? <<
the federal government should have no role. even the state government should have a limited role. it should be a local matter for parents and teachers and communities to decide. of course sniveling liberals such as yourself allow (even encourage) our government to trample all over the constitution and snatch away our liberties.
>> In the case of airport/airline security, I doubt any reasonable person would argue, given the potential threats to public safety and national security of which we are now painfully aware, that security of our air transportation systems is a legitimate role and duty of our government. <<
plenty of reasonable people argue that the government doesn't need to federalize airline security. and what is this national security threat business? the commercial airline industry is simply a public transportation industry. what vital national security interest is there? are you sure you don't mean vital national convenience?
>> The debate in Congress, whether both sides of the aisle acknowledge it or not, comes down to how best the government can ensure that security. <<
there is a big difference between federalizing workers and simply having guidelines, standards, and oversight.
>> Given the obvious failures of private businesses in managing security at individual airports, it is perfectly reasonable for our representatives in Congress to raise doubts about the ability of private security companies to meet our needs as a nation. In fact, it is their duty to ask the question and debate it. <<
no one denies that airline security is an issue. it's the solution that people disagree on. you can tighten airline/airport security without federalizing workers. plain and simple. given the obvious failures of government in managing security for our country, it is perfectly reasonable for us as citizens to be skeptical of another attempted power grab by the federal government when the security issues can be resolved by guidelines, standards, oversight of the private sector.
>> Moreover, given that this is a matter of public safety and national security <<
how is it a matter of national security?
>> the burden of proof should be on private enterprise to prove that 1) they are capable of meeting our security needs <<
nope. in a supposedly free society like ours, the burden is for government to prove that federalizing airline security will provide better security than a simple solution such as guidelines, standards, and oversight. our government has failed so miserably in so many endeavors that the burden of proof should clearly be on them. IF THE GODDAMN GOVT DID IT'S JOB WE WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO DISCUSS THIS. THE REAL FAILURE WAS NOT IN THE AIRLINE SECURITY INDUSTRY IT WAS WITH OUR STUPID LIBERAL PUBLIC OFFICIALS.
>> 2) that there are benefits to society, whether economic or otherwise, from privatization of such a function that significantly outweigh the risks of putting a policing and national security function in the hands of private business. <<
we need to PROVE that there are benefits to society from keeping the federal government's cotton pickin, finger lickin', greasy mitts off one more aspect of our lives????? what kind of an american are you? a goddamn marxist one for sure.
>> You appear to think that air transport security is NOT a proper function of government <<
you appear to think that the government will solve all our problems when all it has done is create the very problem we face today. if the government can't even control our borders why should we hand over airline security to them as well???
>> but you will not even attempt to make a case for why this is so <<
the truly sad state of affairs in this country is that i even have to. we shouldn't even be wasting our time on this. but as long as commie pinko leftist marxists like you are around, i guess we have no choice. |
