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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank

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To: Neocon who wrote (38050)11/21/2001 12:39:18 PM
From: E  Read Replies (3) of 82486
 
If CH or anyone else PM's you with any explanation at all, any link, any PM, on either SI or IHub, for his claim that Poet "made negative inferences about our young men in uniform," would you please make this issue go away for Poet (and me) by sharing them with us?

Here are some posts of mine you will find interesting, and will find CH's replies to interesting:

Initial background, which quickly became mooted.

Message 16675458

That background, including some interesting but not currently-at-issue exchanges about a threatened lawsuit I would be happy to supply links to, receded because a certain scenario was presented by CH as an explanation for "all this." It was this:

The post of Poet's that started all this, back about a month or so ago, made negative inferences about our young men in uniform, which I took personal exception to since (as Poet well knows) my son is serving proudly in the Air Force defending the rights of certain people to continue to think and write what they do. [CH]

Message 16677299

In the post linked to above also appears my request to CH to provide some substantiation for his claim that "Poet made negative inferences about our young men in uniform" (later, "cast aspersion on our troops" was a formulation he also insisted was true.) I wrote:

Please produce Poet's "negative inferences about our young men in uniform." Such a post of hers is what you say "started all this...Please produce Poet's insult to our young men in uniform."

Every exchange since then has consisted of his repeating the calumny but refusing to provide a single post from either SI or IHub on which Poet derides our troops in any way.


In fact, you should know, when assessing this matter, that he has continued up until last night to insist poet has cast aspersions on our troops when

1) She would not do so

2) has never done so, and

3) She in fact supports our military action in Afghanistan and has never posted to any other effect on any board.

Again: I have appealed to CH a number of times to retract the calumny (or to produce some evidence!)... I have appealed to CH's friends on this board to seek some link showing Poet casting aspersions on our troops, or "our young men," and showing CH "taking personal exception to this," [and referencing his son.]

These links tell the story. You will find no substantiation by CH even alluded to in response. Only reiterations that the accusation is true.

Message 16681823

In this post, I think I may have come close to seeing what caused CH to make up the accusation, but I'm not a mindreader so it is only speculation.:

Message 16682698

A few more:

Message 16684707

JLA post:

Message 16685852

I ask CH again yesterday, "Poet never cast any aspersion whatever on our "young men," such as your son, did she?"

Message 16685865

He replies, yesterday, "Yes.
Now, it really is time to drop it and move on."

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Last night at 7:03 PM, including:

"You are claiming the right to hit Poet with a falsehood, and run, and then change the subject."

Message 16687382

And at 8:28 last night, CH reiterates. "I am satisfied that she did":

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I post, "You are satisfied that she cast those aspersions on our "young men" via telepathic messaging, electronic signals beamed to your dental fillings, or via some post on SI or IHub?"

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Jeff is mentioned by me:

Message 16687419

At 12:24 am today, November 21, CH reiterates his position:

Message 16688381

(I point out that 'it isn't a matter of disagreement whether Poet posted as you say she did. It is a matter of objectively verifiable fact. Either she did (in which case you can prove it) or she didn't (in which case you will continue to say ludicrous things like "We disagree," and "Let's move on."')

Christopher, today, the same day on which he posts his latest iteration of the lies about Poet's having cast aspersions on our troops, threatens to report my reactions to his lies as violations of the TOU:

Message 16689803

I note to CH and to all that as long as CH declines to produce any evidence that Poet cast aspersions on our troops or "young men," yet maintains the fiction that she did that with such statements as "I am satisfied with my position," I will continue to point out that he made he position up and owes Poet an apology, and he might throw one in for me, too, while he's at it.

Christopher, you made it up.

I have sent a copy of this post to Jeff.
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