Last night I had the strangest dream I'd ever dreamed before I dreamed the world had all agreed To put an end to war
I dreamed I saw a mighty room Filled with women and men And the paper they were signing said They'd never fight again
And when the paper was all signed And a million copies made They all joined hands and bowed their heads And grateful pray'rs were prayed
And the people in the streets below Were dancing 'round and 'round While swords and guns and uniforms Were scattered on the ground
Last night I had the strangest dream I'd never dreamed before I dreamed the world had all agreed To put an end to war.
- Ed McCurdy, ca 1950 ... remains a dream until it's omnilateral of course, and nobody's holding their breath waiting on that ... however in the interim each of us are going to require justification for support of violence, that's just the way we're made ... and each of us differ, as well, that too is just the way we're made ... you can all day and all night accuse an opposing viewpoint as pretension to 'righteousness' and it won't make a great deal of difference ... kind of funny, you begin your post with 'The moralists are havin' a field day' and then you proceed to moralise -g- ..... and your conclusions i don't entirely disagree with, i'm just pointing out an amusing circle in our great mandala of humanity
Jim, no group or organisation run by human beings has ever been or ever will be perfect, and that includes the USA .... perhaps more so, since it swings a bigger military/economic hammer than has any empire before it, and while it might be reasonably expected to have the advantage of increased wisdom in logarithmic proportion to the constantly advancing years of our species, there is a whole lot of room for criticism in its actions -
For example - helping the french to recolonise Indochina following the help the locals gave in beating back the japanese empire .... doesn't matter how many chinese or russian boogeymen you dream up here, this was immoral [read 'stupid'] .... observe how the locals used said chinese and russians and then dropped them when the goal of independence was attained, sort of makes you think maybe Truman should have responded more intelligently to Ho Chi Minh's letter of 1946 with the US declaration of independence quotes in it, eh
Another example - a federal department of the USA is at this moment persecuting my province of British Columbia - at a time when all on this continent should be standing together shoulder to shoulder [and in a civil manner arguing politics at the same time, for that is what we do], the US 'Commerce' department is under the control of sleazeball lobbyists working for a timber baron gang from down in the slave states, it has caused your tax money to be used to choke out of the continental economy the products of BC, while BC continues to permit US-provenanced goods and services to cross the border completely free of duties and tariffs ... [which cannot last, simply cannot, we just seem to have this huge capacity to take shit from the US, being so close to it, but there's a limit and it's not far away imho] ...... there's a thread on this subject btw - #Subject-51596
Feel free to ask about Nicaragua and United Fruit and the atrocities of Reagan's goons while you're there, however beware of falling into the trap of two-party 'fer-us' or 'agin-us' thinking, world's a much more diverse place than that, the fact that any individual has criticisms of specific US actions does not necessarily make them perma-critics ... for example, many workers of the Commerzwaffe-devastated forest industry here, myself among them, support so far the US/UK/et al actions against terrorist bases ... provided that it doesn't turn out later that US leaders have been lying to us like Reagan, Nixon, Bush I, Johnson. etc ..... and if you come to an opinion on what those mafiosos are doing with your federal tax dollar, here's a petition to Dubya you can sign - city.pg.bc.ca |