gda:
As always I like to respond to every point in anyone who responds to me. So let me go over your post:
You state:
> You are one pessimistic and bitter soul!
hmmm... if (when it comes to Islam) telling the facts as I see them and as they are, gets me the title of being a pessimist and having a bitter soul, then you can call me as being the mother of all pessimists having the most bitter soul! So thank you for your recognition!
You state:
> 1. The Koran is not much different than the old testament in the references to violence and bloodshed.
2. There was a phase in all three religions when violence and bloodshed (lets use v&b for short) was practiced.
I fail to see your point. The focus is on “Islam”, and nothing else. Like I said, you are sort of justifying having Saddam Hossein simply because we had Adolph Hitler!
You state:
> 3. Other religions have distanced themselves from v&b in the name of religion even though the scriptures have not changed.
This is exactly my point. They have gone through their sanitation evolutionary process. Islam has not! It has to go through the same sanitation process. But talk to any Muslim and see if they are willing to do that!
You state:
> 4. There is no chance that Muslims will re-write the Koran.
I agree with you 100%. You are right on the target on this one.
You state:
> 6. Mullahs, Imams etc. are the religious leaders that must bear the responsibility for this interpretation. Whether they accept this responsibility throughout the Muslim world is a different question.
Like I said, you may have a good chance of success for explaining the color of Red to a born blind, but you will have absolutely no such chance trying to explain reason, logic, and "humanity" to the Mullahs, Imams, etc.
You state:
> I think that the educated and civilized Muslims must work hard to influence these religious leaders to live up to this responsibility
Educated Muslims?!! Here are the words of an educated civilized Muslim living in a free-thinking society as in the U.S:
Message 16719659
In the above post this educated civilized moderate Muslim living in a free thinking society states that (and I quote):
"Muslims accept ALL of the Qur'an as it is regardless of how well or how little they understand it... a Muslim has to, otherwise he/she is no longer a Muslim..."
In other words what he is saying is that a Muslim must – I repeat MUST – accept Quran "as is" (with all its violent out-of-date barbaric teachings and verses ranging from wife beating to killing of non-Muslims), and without even questioning its verses, otherwise he/she is not a Muslim.
With that framework of mind, how on earth do you think Mullahs, and Imams and other psychopaths who have taken the title of being Islamic religious leaders for average Joe in Islamic countries, can possibly be influenced/educated by the so called even the moderate educated civilized Muslims?!
You state:
> This is my unbiased opinion and you are welcome to accept it.
And "this is" “MY” unbiased opinion and you are welcome to accept it.
Best regards, |
