Addi,
You certainly are making this debate difficult for no reason. I'll have to resort to your method of response, as you seem to go back to the same arguments all the time:
1. Forget about the "pessimistic" and "bitter". I take this back as it is of no consequence to this debate and I am sorry I even said this.
2. you say: "I fail to see your point. The focus is on “Islam”, and nothing else. Like I said, you are sort of justifying having Saddam Hossein simply because we had Adolph Hitler!"
I am not "justifying" anything! I am simply stating historical facts! I also resent you using Hitler for any purpose in this debate. I am Jewish and kind of sensitive to this if you don't mind.
Now as to the point I was making which you failed to understand: Religions do not necessarily act according to the simple understanding of their holly books. Therefore, it is not mandated the Islam should act according to the passages in the Koran that speak of killing and wife beating etc. The point is, the religious leaders can and should interpret these passages and lead their believers away from violence and towards the positive teachings of their books. The Jews have been doing this for 2000 years which resulted in the Talmud and many other studies.
Whether the Islamic leaders actually do this or not is a different issue. All I am saying is that this is what I believe should be done.
3. You say: "This is exactly my point. They have gone through their sanitation evolutionary process. Islam has not! It has to go through the same sanitation process. But talk to any Muslim and see if they are willing to do that!"
Well, Hallelujah, we agree on something (the first part of your statement). I do think there are Moslems that agree with the need to interpret the Koran as non-violent. At least they publicly claim that it is not preaching terror!
With regards to the "red" and the "blind", this is the reason I thought you are a pessimist. I think that eventually, most religious leaders of the Moslem faith will turn around. Starting with Moslem communities in the West.
4. You say: "With that framework of mind, how on earth do you think Mullahs, and Imams and other psychopaths who have taken the title of being Islamic religious leaders for average Joe in Islamic countries, can possibly be influenced/educated by the so called even the moderate educated civilized Muslims?!"
The answer is that there is no connection! You can accept the Koran as a true Muslim should, and also accept its interpretation as a non violent and peace loving teaching! It all depends on how it is explained to me, if I am a simple "Joe" of the Muslim faith. The person you quoted, I believe, said that he accepts the Koran as a holly scripture but he also said that to his understanding the Koran preaches peace and tolerance! So, what do I care what the book says, as long as the average Muslim understands it to be peaceful!
This is the whole point, and this is my learned opinion which you can accept or not.
GDA |
