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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH
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To: DuckTapeSunroof who wrote (208064)12/7/2001 5:06:42 PM
From: Srexley  Read Replies (1) of 769670
 
"The spector of our Attny. General standing before Congress yesterday and flat-out implying that anyone who disagreed with him was siding with our terrorist enemies, as if no other points-of-view were possible, was particularly bad"

I saw it yesterday and say he was spot on. The complainers are complaining for the sake of complaining (trying to make the President look bad is their true motive imo). If they had specific examples or if something bad had actually been done it would be different. It is posed in a way as to assume they are doing a power grab for the sake of doing a power grab, and not the true reason of protecting our nation and our people. And it DOES give comfort to the enemy for them to see our politicians try to besmirch our President, Attorney General and Secretary of Defense.

"His exploitation of a terrorist training manual (waiving it around as if there were any surprise that there existed violent people in the world, and as if the existence of bad people mandated that the American Constitution should be selectively ignored) was very disturbing"

He clearly was pointing out that the manual showed how terrorists USED our civil liberties to try to defeat us. Very pertinent as to why SOME liberties for SOME people can lead to harm for our nation. Beautifully presented, and brought up a number of points I had not considered.

"It could be argued with at least equal success, I believe, that subverting our Constitutional freedoms poses an even greater threat to the soul of our nation"

Then why wasn't it? Again, I thought the AG did an excellent job with the training manual to point out the minimum varience from our constittion to protect from the fringe element that will use our constitutional rights to KILL us.

"Ben Franklin said something that was often repeated during the American Revolutionary War: 'They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.' It is no less true today"

Thanks for sharing your opinions, but you are way off on this quote as to its application for today. Ascroft laid out very well the minimal deviation from our civil rights that will be NECESARY to keep us safe.

What civil liberties in particular do you think he HAS gone too far with. I would like to debate those concerns individually if you are interested.
Scott
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