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To: Gottfried who wrote (58248)	12/30/2001 12:23:27 PM
From: robert b furman	Read Replies (2) of 70976

Hi G, Within the GM world,New cars are new cars - if a title has never been issued. Not many people ever see them,but all manufacturers issue an MSO (manfacturers Statement of Origin.This has weight ratings and MSO #is as well as the Vehicle Identification Number. When a new vehicle is sold, the MSO is given to the Titling state and they after being paid the sales tax and misc titling fees issue a "Title". Every state has its own unique title.If any loan is collteralized - the lending institution is recorded on the title as a"lienholder".Upon settlement of the lien the Title is free and clear.This is indicated on the title by the release signature of the lienholder. Back to your question - A new car is only a new car when it has the MSO. Often dealers trade a vehicle from one dealer to another.It is frequent that dealer trades occur - it help maximize inventory turn if all dealers work together. It is important at initial deal writeup that the actual mileaqge is correct. After you purchase the vehicle the dealer must report you as the buyer.This is important safety info and will be referred to in the event of Safety recalls. During that reporting period the actual mileage at the time of sale is reported - this starts the clock for your warranty. On new cars, GM allows up to 1000 miles for an extension from 0 miles.Realistically all new cars come to dealers with 6-9 miles on them - incurred from transportation yards quality control(almost all go on a chassis dynamometer and the end of the assembly line.Highe miles occur from demo rides and dealer trades. It is not a bad sign to see higher miles.However most customers prefer "no miles". In reality 10 shouldn't teak any interest.If the window sticker shows the ordering dealer to be different than the selling dealer 100 -200 miles wouldn't bother me. If you ordered it there should be very few.All dealers are required to drive a vehicle at delivery for a quality inspection.The factory doesn't pay much for this and realistically it's a couple of miles at most. When a corvette comes in I check the miles at the truck.I have a standing order of no joy riding performance cars.I don't let customers demo them until they've bought them.If you are a serious buyer you appreciate the position - at least I did when I bought my only new corvette. Hope you enjoy the new shiny ride.I am a big believer in buying extended warranties - if you plan on owning the car more than 36 months or 36,000 miles.The expensive repairs always occur after 70,000 miles.Extended warranties are negotiable - don't buy more than you need but do buy one.I like the lower deductables and then keep everything fixed all the time - you get it back when it comes to reselling.Reselling is a problem with Hyundais in Texas - the reputation for durability has in the past been poor - lots of plastic.I'd be sure to get the extended warranty and let them insure the "new quality". Full diclosure - I'm a GM dealer(and Chrysler too) so I have tunnel vision about the many wonderful competitive vehicles that rightly so exist beyond my world of preference Hope you enjoy your new brand -X.gggg Being a true believer in GM quality I buy extended warranties on the cars I provide for my parents.I bought the longest one available for my Harley also.One last point-always buy the extended warranty that is offered from the manufacturer.It may be a bit more expensive - but they have your satisfaction in mind - hoping to earn the repeat sale.There are exceptions to that,but you need to have complete confidence in your dealer to vary in aftermarket extended warranties.I sell Bank Ones "One care" because I think it's actually more customer friendly than the factory's i.e. guaranteed loaner on the fist day - even if you run out of gas !! I don't like most others as they often have reserves that if not fully used go back to the dealer at some time - thusly your full interests may not be well served.So if a customer of mine that lives out of my service area capability - I insist on them buying GM's Protection Plan - it is more expensive but beyond doubt with their intent to satisfy vs scalp expenses. Sorry for the book - but I hope it helps you save money and totally enjoy your new ride.gggg Bob

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