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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices

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To: TimF who wrote (141771)1/16/2002 6:04:03 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) of 1585198
 
Remember that dictatorships are typically conservative, not liberal.

I think you use conservative to mean whatever will sound bad at the moment.


Tim, not at all.

Come up with a specific definition that you can use consistantly. Post it.

Webster's definition of conservatism is fine: "a disposition in politics to preserve what is established; a philosophy based on tradition and social stability, stressing established institutions and preferring gradual development to abrupt change."

I will tell you if I find it to be acceptable.

Excuse me, I don't think so. Political science was one of my two majors. I know what conservatism is.

(If it isn't acceptable then that really means we are using two different ideas when we use the word conservative.

Hitler was not conservative, he was radical, and he expanded state control of the economy.

He was radically conservative as was Franco of Spain and Stalin of Russia. Admittedly, they were conservatism run amok.

He was not liberal either (either in the classical sense of supporting liberal government or in the modern sense of modern democratic socialism), but his ideas have just about no connection to either classical conservative thought or the ideas of the Republican party. About the only idea that I can think of that Bush would share would be the desire for a strong military.

The common theme that I see between Reps in the US and right wing dictators is their efforts to minimize change and to limit public input. Of course with Hitler, et al these issues were greatly exaggerated and they tended to be reactionary.


Many dictatorships are communist. Communism is a more extreme form of socialism. Hitler and his ilk are not a more extreme form of Reagan or Newt Gingrich.

The closest this world has come to communism in the true sense of that word is maybe the socialism practised in a country like Sweden. In one sense, communism was intended to outdemocraticize democracy where the people would own and run everything.....there would be little if any upper mgmt.

However, communism as practised by Russia was nothing more than a conservative dictatorship imposed upon a communist model where the people had no power and no ownership in reality.

ted
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