Hi Nadine Carroll; Re: "How are you disproving anything with your admitted ignorance of the Koran? By one citation of the US treaty with Barbary Pirates, a treaty dictated by the US? Absurd." What was absurd was your statement that the Koran instructed Moslems that they couldn't make permanent settlements with non Moslems. What I gave was a case where the Moslems signed a permanent treaty with the US that has been in effect for nearly as long as the United States has been in existence. You were wrong. Admit it. If you want me to prove your error further, just ask for it. I'm the world's best searcher out of links, and I can undoubtedly find similar treaties that Moslem nations have signed with any great power on the planet.
But the important thing to note is that if your biased view of Moslems were true, then it is not possible for Israel to make a permanent peace with Arafat. In that case, why is Israel misrepresenting that they want a permanent peace that involves freedom for Palestine? If the Israelis truly believe that Moslems can't sign a permanent peace with Israel, why is Israel pretending to negotiate one? What is your proposal to conclude a permanent peace under the assumptions that the Moslems are religiously restricted from signing one?
Re: "I never said they had no slant at all ..." Correct, what you did was avoid the issue. It was they themselves who claimed to be "non partisan". (see #reply-16922393 for the details.) That was a lie, and it makes everything else they write suspect.
Re: "MEMRI is trying to bring the vicious Jew-hatred of the Mideast to Western attention." We already know about this. And hey, the Arabs are busily trying to bring the vicious Arab-hatred of Israel to Western attention. Do you see the symmetry now? Both you guys see the US as a hammer to help beat up your hated enemy. I don't think we should get involved.
Re: "The paper has run columns thanking Hitler for his good deeds ..." I'm sure that with a good internet search tool I can find websites in the US where equally vile comments are made by our own Neo-nazis. But there's no point to it. For that matter, I'm sure that I can find sites showing hatred against Arabs. People hate each other, but why does that mean the US should be involved?
You just don't seem to get my point. I know that you guys hate each other, and that you've been doing it for a long time, and that you're very good at it. So what? I don't give a damn. All I want to do is to live a pleasant life here in this country. Getting tangled up with your 3000 year mutual ethnic cleansings and whacko religious beliefs is not what I want to do. What's worse is that it is so obvious that both of you only want the US power around as a tool to hurt your enemy. Neither of you wants peace. The US is thousands of miles away, we don't have to be involved.
Re: "Or is this your real complaint, that MEMRI is truthfully portraying the Arab press?" I don't read the Arab press, so I have no idea how truthfully they portray it. But they lied to me already about being nonpartisan:
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Of course you believe what MEMRI publishes, but what do you expect, they're playing your tune.
Re: "They show what they think is interesting, both positive and negative. Is this negative?:
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The mentality of each one of us was programmed upon entering school as a child, [to believe] that [Islam] is everything. Instilled in our small heads was the [notion that the Muslim] has a right - whatever the cause - and that he will triumph - even if he is armed with a stick of wood against a tank - because he [represents] the truth and the others represent falsehood. Instilled in our small heads was the [notion] that we have a monopoly on good values.
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LOL!!! I suppose that if North Vietnam went to the trouble of quoting Jane Fonda you'd have counted that as an indication that they were nonpartisan, because they were quoting stuff that was "postive" for the United States? Do you really think that it's positive to describe the Arab countries as shown in the paragraph above? Maybe your hatred is interacting with your judgement.
-- Carl |
