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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices

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To: d[-_-]b who wrote (142357)2/4/2002 6:50:56 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) of 1578897
 
re: If the NRA were the fine organization your posts would have us believe, then they would be working actively to restrict killings by guns through gun control laws and other means. Educating a small group of people on the proper usage of a gun is a very small piece in the huge effort needed to reduce the level of gun violence in this country.

750,000 people receive training yearly, that figure is not small. What would you have the NRA do?


Stop opposing sound gun legislation. If the NRA's membership are such saints, then they should not have a problem agreeing to restrictions on gun ownership that help to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. They need to put their money to good use instead of using it to lobby Congress.

They already offer training and safety classes, they encourage the government to enforce the hundreds of laws on the books regarding strong sentencing of crimes involving guns.

If these were the solutions to our gun violence, we would not be having this discussion.

re: If that were true, we would have not accidental shootings, school schootings and acts-of-passion shootings by adults. Criminals have their fair share of killings but killings are not exclusive to them.

Granted there are a couple hundred accidents per year, but that pales in comparison to other accidents such as falling off a ladder.


There are a lot more than a couple of hundred killings per year, and that does not begin to address all the shootings that maim but do not result in death.

As for school shootings and crimes of passion, I'm not so sure the NRA is equiped to deal with mental health issues.

But in many of the school shootings, the kids used their law abiding parents' guns....isn't there some role the NRA should play to stop to travesty?

re: why does the NRA [and you]ignore the fact that the level of gun violence and deaths is so much greater than our peers?

I'm not ignoring the fact, I haven't once attacked your 30K+ figure. I am suggesting your solutions won't impact that number and that's what the NRA is saying as well.


Then why is gun violence so much higher here than other developed nations; nations I might add which have strong gun control laws? And btw thies countries suffer from many of the same problems we do......drugs, robberies, high unemployment etc.

re: And if the NRA believes that its members and law abiding citizens are not the problem, why does it fight gun control laws that should not effect its members with such zeal?

Because the law abiding citizen is the only person your ideas for new laws effect. It's already illegal to kill people in most states.

But its not illegal to own a gun and in some states, its as easy as buying a candy bar.

re: Sorry but I gave you facts, not CNN headlines

No they're not, you haven't offered one good idea. You still think the problem is the guns themselves. America is just full of a lot of bad people, mostly involved in drugs.


There were facts in my links......if you chose not to read them, I can't help that.

You keep talking about gun "proliferation" as if that's the problem. It's guns in the hands of criminals that's a problem. You never seem to bother yourself with why they are using guns. Is it to defend themselves from their victims?

The problem is the ready access to guns legally and illegally.......the proliferation of guns legally and illegally makes access just that much easier. Frankly, its not rocket science.
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