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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices

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To: TimF who wrote (142394)2/5/2002 3:21:50 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) of 1577108
 
But even a drunk driver is not nearly as effective and as efficient at killing as a gun.

Drunk drivers are a constant danger to all of the people around them. Gun owners are less dangerous. In the right hands a gun might increase your safety.


Spiderman? GI Joe? Who is so perfect that they could never shoot someone by mistake, or in the heat of passion? One of my links states that the people who were saved by a gun in 2000 is minuscle. There is no good guy keeping us out of harm's way with his gun.

In one of the links I provided you, there was a discussion re legislation that pushed for safeties on guns which the NRA opposed........ Was that someone's fabrication?

I couldn't find anything in your link that even mentioned any opposition to regular safeties. They where talking about "safety locks" which is a different thing.


Yes, of course.......how could I have missed that. The gun manu. are willing but the NRA is not.....I know, I know......it makes shooting a gun more difficult, and we would never want to inconvenience someone. If only we figure out how to keep people from dying when they were shot, then everyone could shoot off guns whenever they wanted. We could have a gun in every home and two in every car.

Again, why does the NRA [and you]ignore the fact that the level of gun violence and deaths is so much greater than our peers?

In most of those countries many other things are different as well. Japan for example has much less murder both using guns and not using guns, but it has a lot more suicide. Many of these cultural difference go back way beyond any modern gun control laws. Some of them go back from before useful guns existed in any greaqt number.


This country was founded by Europeans........our culture is predominately a European derivative culture. Most of the comparative facts in my links were to European countries.

And NRA [and you] also seem very eager to ignore the possibility that a culture with lax gun laws may beget a culture that has high levels of violence.

That possibility seems very low to me.


Why am I not surprised!

You seem to ignore the possibility that we need guns to defend ourselves because we have a more violent culture.

And you ignore that the inverse may be true. We've tried it your way and nearly 30,000 people die each year; now lets try it my way.

So if someone disagrees with you they are by definition a horrible person or organization and then of course you no longer have to really consider their opinion.

That's not true. Nearly 30,000 of my fellow Americans are killed by guns; many more thousands are maimed and/or injured. I hate the fact that guns are causing so much death and injury in our society and are so prevalent. The NRA promotes the usage and ownership of guns in this country.

And you are surprised that I am not more supportive of the NRA. What part of this scenario is a mystery to you? Its not an issue of disagreement; its an issue of life or death.......why else would people feel so strongly re the issue.

Tim
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