Just War.....
>>Your mixing apples and oranges there Steve. Personal revenge is not permitted for Christians. They are to leave justice up to God. Part of God's justice is administered through Governments who make and enforce laws to protect the innocent and punish the guilty. It is within this context of protection and justice that concept of a "just war" can be, and in fact is, completely consistent with the teaching of the Bible. I would be happy to discuss this further with you tomorrow, if you wish. I'm going to sleep.
Greg>>
Greg:
There will never, ever, ever, ever be a war that anyONE individual can claim to be "just."
It's the height of madness and insanity to get caught up into justifying war in any way, shape or form.
The Divine Providence of our ONE Lord God in Heaven does operate through every itty, bitty bit and bit thing that ever, ever happens in this world and throughout the entire universe.
Heat happens.
Anger happens.
And water, like a metaphor for His Love, evaporates into the air. And with the application of more anger and more hate more water - ie. Love - evaporates right back into the air.
And as the anger and hate dissipates the temperature of the air naturally works it's perfect influence on the moisture contained in the air in the form of rain which, like His Love, works to recharge, refresh and regenerate the fields supporting the energy, light and needs of Life itself.
The Lord's Divine Providence is perfect, complete and just for it allows for ONE thing which any and all models of justice that mankind "claims to create" will NOT allow: perfect FREEDOM.
For the world's government, corporate and religious leaders in any way, shape or form to justify war and destruction in any way, shape or form is completely in synch with the Lord's Divine Providence for ONE reason alone: FREEDOM. Even though war has nothing to do with the Lord, He allows us to chose to receive any and all potential variations and mixes of energies, ideas and thoughts which may happen to justify and support the course of action we end up taking.
If war is somehow "justified" in the name of God then this is the "God of this world" which has absolutely nothing to do with the God of Love who is our ONE Lord God in Heaven.
If the application of anger is somehow "justified" in the name of God then this is the "God of this world" which has absolutely nothing to do with the God of Love who is our ONE Lord God in Heaven.
If the application of hate is somehow "justified" in the name of God then this is the "God of this world" which has absolutely nothing to do with the God of Love who is our ONE Lord God in Heaven.
If the application of killing others is somehow "justified" in the name of God then this is the "God of this world" which has absolutely nothing to do with the God of Love who is our ONE Lord God in Heaven.
The simple "key" to understand is that there IS a God of this world and there IS a God of this universe. Neither have anything to do with each other, but there IS only ONE source of all power, all energy, all light, all truth and all Love which supports, threads, connects, cares for and allows for perfect FREEDOM and he is our ONE Lord God in Heaven who is the true Father of our Divine Soul that already knows all of this and that's stands patiently in the background waiting for the time when it will be asked to enter into a communion with our minds and our hearts in a state of unity with our Father in Heaven who's energy, light and Love is connected to the Divine Soul within each of us.
We can attempt to "justify" war economically, politically and morally for various trumped up "religious" and "just cause" reasons, but the fact remains: WAR IS TOTAL, COMPETE AND UTTER INSANITY.
Period.
And the sooner individuals receive this simple truth the sooner fewer individuals will be bamboozled by the Three Card Monte Wizard of Oz model of this world which seeks to keep up the separation, divisions and all these irrational claims of "justice" which only work to fuel more blame and shame in a never-ending spiral of economic, social, spiritual and moral destruction.
For this destruction is what the God of this world is seeking to enforce in, over and around the unwitting minds, hearts and souls of individuals who are being spun, sliced, diced and led down these dark primerose paths of irrational justice to our collective oblivion.
The dye has been cast. The spritual Red Sea parted on September 11th. The choice is up to each individual:
1) Walk across this "sea" to the other side where this New Model of this New World is being created by Him who is our ONE Father in Heaven. This is a place where more and more individuals unconditionally receive, embrace, share and celebrate the FREEDOM of His unconditional light, energy and Love with others which has ZERO/NO limits and will redeem mankind from destruction. This is the model of freedom where His energy, light and Love no boundaries or limits.
....or...
2) Stay behind in the Old Model - the matrix of darkness and destruction - and continue being a compelled slave of more, limits, restrictions, hatred, anger and war. This is the model of slavery where His energy, light and Love is warred, roped, sliced, diced, denied and fought against.
The choice is really very plain and simple.
Should God Be Replaced?
That's the subject of this thread.
Examine the ACTIONS that extend from what's being claimed, justified and prosecuted in this world and you will find the face of "the God" being worshipped.
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