Hey, Sammy, you always like spilling info from your secret sources in TRKR. Why hold out on TRKR shareholders now?
Here's your private email to me, and my response
============================ ragingbull.lycos.com ragingbull.lycos.com ============================ 23 Feb 2002, 02:56 PM EST Msg. 7788 of 7808 (This msg. is a reply to 7784 by TAND.) SAM DAN SPEAKS! (hot!!!!)
does everybody get this?
TRKR is now whispersing that it never even owned the asset system --- so even if it existed (dubious) and was worth something (ha!) it's not TRKR's anymore.
Of course, it never disclosed those weeee facts to shareholders.
And you folks are mad at *me*! ha!
Hey, Canuck, what's your expert opinion about *this*?
Or maybe you're not an expert in scams, which is where expertise is needed here.
- Charles
======= FROM SAM-DAN to Tilyou === private email=========== Crow doesn't taste very good. Our 'sources' tell us the debenture holders will probably NOT put the company into bankrupcy as there is a 20 million dollar tax loss that would be of value if they kept company alive as a shell and eventually move a revenue generating company into the shell.Probably after a reverse share move.About 192 million shares oustanding[or maybe 92 million-not sure. Contrary to your emphasis on double bar code- the real value of the company is their new asset management technology but our 'sources' say that the people involved in developing this technology did it without payment from TRKR and may have a legitimate right to take the technology with them . Any comments?
========== MY ANSWER ============== Saturday, February 23, 2002 1:06 AM ET To: SAM-DAN (who wrote) From: Charles B. Kramer
Well, first, thanks for your very civil response! I don't take pleasure from others misfortune... but, yeah, I suppose there's a certain pleasure in being right about TRKR.
--'sources' tell us the debenture holders will probably NOT --put the company into bankrupcy as there is a 20 million --dollar tax loss that would be of value if they kept --company alive as a shell and eventually move a revenue --generating company into the shell.
I have no opinion about all that. I am amazed at the many many millions (isn't it more than $20M overall?) that TRKR has burned through, with very little to show for it.
--Contrary to your emphasis on double bar code- the real --value of the company is their new asset management --technology but our 'sources' say that the people involved --in developing this technology did it without payment from --TRKR and may have a legitimate right to take the --technology with them . --Any comments?
I am very skeptical that TRKR ever had any technology that was worth anything -- there are just too many 2d Bar code companies out there with real applications targeted for particular industries. TRKR doens't have the experience or personnel to develop anything, and its boasts about what it was developing were so big the more likely truth is it has zero.
And nobody develops technology for nothing -- I mean, they could have done the work purely for themselves. Maybe parttime devlopers would work for shares.
For TRKR to claim to own technology it could lose is a major scandal -- something that should have been reported in TRKR SEC statements.
My guess? It's just a way for TRKR to cover up the fact that they have nothing. "Oh, we 'HAD' something", your source seem to be telling you, "but the developers got to take it away'".
Ha!
In any event, thanks for writing and good luck in your investments.
- Charles ========================= 24 Feb 2002, 02:47 PM EST Msg. 7799 of 7808 (This msg. is a reply to 7798 by hfdent.) HFDENT & SAMMY & REPENTENCE!
SamDan in his many 2 faced forms have never previously been the least bit civil to me -- instead of responding politely to my sage points, he's always resorted to ugly personal attacks. It's thanks to SAM DAN that I participate here -- his VILE and absurd and completely inaccurate posts (for example, about the TRKR patent) on Silicon Investor are what started me.
Remember?
So point one: I owe you NADA, except maybe as a footnote in a report to the SEC.
Point two: I've been correct about TRKR all along, which now is obvious. SamDan in private email admitted this: now time for you to do so, publicly and politely. Why don't you tell all the people you sucked here with inaccurate information that you're sorry?
And point three: the latest info from Sammy's "sources" is SHOCKING: that TRKR even if it had any sort of asset system doesn't own it anymore. SHAREHOLDERS SHOULD KNOW -- about TRKR's fraud, and you being an agent of it. The only other possibily is you have been merely incredible dupe used to pass along their disinformation.
Either way, you misled a lot of shareholders Sammy.
No repentence?
- Charles |