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Politics : Should God be replaced?

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To: Grandk who wrote (11178)2/26/2002 1:12:51 PM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (1) of 28931
 
In days of old, most if not all cultures worshiped some spirit or entity. Today, especially here in America, we worship self and money. Has anything really changed?

A few posts back , when pointing out to Frederick here that there is no "Hell" , and in truth no Evil as well , I gave in to the temptation to say if there was a Hell , then it might have been on one of those White Slave ships crossing the Atlantic a few Centuries ago to America .

It's true that early Christian princes were not allowed to
indulge in usury , but some of the early Christian Princes
of America seemed to allow themselves the right to indulge in human slavery .

Well the formula was simple . As many a good God fearing Christian then managed to see , slavery meant cheap labor of the human kind , fertile soil and harvests brought in from the sweat of slaves that afforded them a competitive edge for their goods on the European markets , especially cotton and tobacco , which were in high demand,
and the money/capital that was desperately needed and generated by a new fledgling country . A country still very much caught up in the rivalries , intrigues and wars of Europe ...that needed to also compete and was expanding.

Then there is the matter of the Indian indigenous peoples that were already here ...but that is a story that has been repeated throughout history ...man's migrations and the displaced and disposessed . A trail of tears too long to go into here but every bit of it completely relevent.

And Slavery flourished for how long here till the Civil War ? And don't forget there were other forms of slavery just as real that were practiced in the north both during , before and after the Civil War , leading up well into the twentieth Century ...I can think of Coal and metal mines , railroad building or the textile mills that were grueling and completely dehumanizing and even used children by the thousands.

It so often amazes me here , when people talk of God and God's lovely messages thru the Bible or the Koran , that they so often ignore the realities of the way things have gone century after century . But God is a personal matter always , and religion is most often a facade for politics,
and an excuse for men to fill each other's eyes.

But I would say that some things have changed , yes ...very much so. I can name a few very incredible examples of change in this last Century . Mahatma Ghandi , who in my opinion easily surpasses Jesus Christ in deed and works , liberating India from the British using non-violence , or
Nelson Mandela of South Africa who's story I am particularly fond of .

Or Martin Luther King , another , who went to India to study non-violence at the invitation of Nehru .

In days of old, most if not all cultures worshiped some spirit or entity.

Yes , all in all it is a pretty magical place , this space-ship Earth ....this bright blue ball spinning thru space , and man's time as a species upon it , some 3 million years
all told has been pretty eventful ...especially the last
5000yrs since language and writing have managed to record it .

Some very interesting running threads of thought definelty began to develope in man's thinking and deepest intuititive
mind that happens especially around the millinea before Christian era in Greece , India , Persia and in China.

Fortunately for all of us , those records, stories , myths and legends have been allowed to to be re~discovered explored and revealed through research and archaeology , or
preserved through several Religions and Philosophies that
the Christians could not entirely wipe out or destroy such
as Buddhism and Hinduism , the latter being the Eldest and
Mother of all religions of the earth today still.

In a post to Frederick , I was pointing out that the Golden Rule was not spoken first by Jesus , but much earlier by a Saint in India called Mahavira and there were 25 or 26 great sages , swamis and saints before him in only that one lineage . And that was 600BCE .

Later , the same words were spoken by Buddha , and also the the thread of thought of loving your enemies , turning the other cheek etc etc , that Christians believe only was spoken by Jesus . Well that was never the case , and some of the richest and most lucid examples of self-renunciation, living spiritually , and understanding how to live simply so others might simply live, and reverence for all life came out of the East ...as well as the great science of self , Yoga.

Islam is a remake of Christianity and Judaism , just dressed up and decorated a little differently . But for some religion is just frozen in time ...the Last Prophet or last Messiah etc , which is utter nonsense . It just doesn't work that way .

If things have not changed, is there any chance that there truly is a spiritual realm, and the great deception is believing that there is nothing more to life than meets the eye?

You mean something greater than Walmart , the largest company on earth ?

For me there is .
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