Sure wish Shalom would drop in too, if only for a few days so we could scratch away more of the surfaces here.
I didn't have the luxury of reading ANY posts on this thread, and certainly not yours on Mark, where is it?
Correction on my theory of John's bad press that never goes away, you would have recognized Gal 1-8 if I had said,
"if anyone brings you any other "gospel". That's what Paul used, "gospel". However, to me "gospel" is nothinmg more than the embodiment of all that is Jesus Christ, without which there is no gospel, period. But it is Gal 1-8. And
Paul didn't say run away, he actually said that anyone changing or reinventing or attributing anything "new" to Jesus that that person is accursed, or cursed, just as John cursed all who would be nice and helpful and try to explain away some of the incredible things God showed John in his writing of Rev.
No, as for Peter, we hit on my greatest sore point in all of Christendom.
At no time in my walk, without any exception, anywhere, was I ever under any cultish, deluded, almost quaisi-satanic in nature "church" (that includes all manner of pentacost, Walkman Nee, and all private offshots of the Jesus Freak movement in California, up to and including deluded disciples of "Children of God", which like Jones' nightmare in Gayana, was at first a much respected "move of the Holy Spirit, and you just HAVE to get over to their church in Ukiah!!!!!"...(breath)....that said leaders were not almost exclusively teaching only from Paul. Without whom, of course, we get absolutely NO scriptural admonitions to be under ANYONE save the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ.
And I believe that was what Peter saw, that people were twisting Paul and coming up witih the obvious conclusion that they were something of little kings and popes who had been ordained to start their own little kingdoms. Most of whom are rarely really "submitted" to anyone at all, and again, the teachings of Paul are used to show that said leaders of old simply were designated apostles, period.
How did I find that scripture? Once while agonizing over that exact curiousity--the obsession with Paul's teachings on submission to designated authorities, even over the comment of Jesus who clearly said, "WHY do you ask me what is right and wrong? ...[you have the inner holy spirit to tell you that], whatever he said exactly. Also call no man father save God in heavena dn on and on and on.
During that time of agonizing all that I know, and all I know that happened is I found myself curiously flipping to the last page of Peter, and there popping into my eyesight
was that scripture. I said Thank you Lord, I was worried there for a minute.
My time is up here unfortunately.
But if there was no problelm it is IMPOSSIBLE Peter could have written such a thing.
Remember that Peter risked a horrible death defending Jesus, and remember that John tried to go inside with Jesus but they threw him out of the inner door. I don't have a bible here, sorry.
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