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Technology Stocks : @HOME IPO
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To: Thu Ra Tin who wrote (268)7/7/1997 9:21:00 PM
From: Jon Tara   of 383
 
I am skeptical of the statement that "the bulk of AOL's traffic was on Sprint".

AOL owns ANS, which is itself a major backbone. All of the traceroutes that I've every run to AOL have gone over ANS, and haven't involved Sprint. Here is a current tracert from @Home in San Diego. (Warning: long, boring content follows!)

Sending 48 data bytes to non-www01.web.aol.com [152.163.202.70]

1:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [24.0.132.1] cr1-hfc4.dt1.sdca.home.net in 20 msec.
2:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [24.0.3.1] bb1-fe0-0-100bt.rdc1.sdca.home.net in 10 msec.
3:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [172.16.0.125] ? in 70 msec.
4:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [192.41.177.140] mae-east.ans.net in 70 msec.
5:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [140.223.61.17] h10-1.t60-4.Reston.t3.ans.net in 80 msec.
6:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [207.25.134.189] inet13-gw.red.aol.com in 80 msec.

(AOL doesn't let you traceroute past this point)

I beleive that @Home's internal network is hidden behind that 172. address.

Just to give some idea what kind of routes to expect, here are a few other random web sites:

Sending 48 data bytes to www24.netscape.com [207.200.73.73]

1:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [24.0.132.1] cr1-hfc4.dt1.sdca.home.net in 20 msec.
2:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [24.0.3.1] bb1-fe0-0-100bt.rdc1.sdca.home.net in 10 msec.
3:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [172.16.0.125] ? in 71 msec.
4:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [192.41.177.180] cpe3-fddi-0.washington.mci.net in 70 msec.
5:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [204.70.1.21] core5-hssi6-0.Washington.mci.net in 230 msec.
6:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [204.70.10.253] core2-hssi2-0.SanFrancisco.mci.net in 91 msec.
7:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [204.70.158.52] borderx1-fddi-1.SanFrancisco.mci.net in 230 msec.
8:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [204.70.158.110] netscape.SanFrancisco.mci.net in 280 msec.
9:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [207.200.71.20] h-207-200-71-20.netscape.com in 90 msec.
10:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 0: [207.200.73.73] www24.netscape.com, 48 bytes in 90 msec.

TraceRoute Statistics for www.netscape.com
10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 10/118/280

Sending 48 data bytes to bolero.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.243.3]

1:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [24.0.132.1] cr1-hfc4.dt1.sdca.home.net in 20 msec.
2:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [24.0.3.1] bb1-fe0-0-100bt.rdc1.sdca.home.net in 10 msec.
3:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [172.16.0.125] ? in 71 msec.
4:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [192.41.177.125] mae-east.nsn.nasa.gov in 80 msec.
5:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [192.43.240.34] rtr-wan2-ef.gsfc.nasa.gov in 70 msec.
6:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [128.183.251.26] rtr-600-b26-cf.gsfc.nasa.gov in 70 msec.
7:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 0: [128.183.243.3] bolero.gsfc.nasa.gov, 48 bytes in 70 msec.

TraceRoute Statistics for www.nasa.gov
7 packets transmitted, 7 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 10/55/80

Sending 48 data bytes to www.cnet.com [204.162.80.183]

1:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [24.0.132.1] cr1-hfc4.dt1.sdca.home.net in 20 msec.
2:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [24.0.3.1] bb1-fe0-0-100bt.rdc1.sdca.home.net in 10 msec.
3:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [172.16.0.125] ? in 80 msec.
4:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [198.32.186.2] maeeast2.bbnplanet.net in 71 msec.
5:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [4.0.1.93] vienna1-br1.bbnplanet.net in 70 msec.
6:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [4.0.2.61] paloalto-br1.bbnplanet.net in 80 msec.
7:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [131.119.0.207] paloalto-cr7.bbnplanet.net in 220 msec.
8:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [131.119.17.66] cnet.bbnplanet.net in 90 msec.
9:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 0: [204.162.80.183] cn4.cnet.com, 48 bytes in 80 msec.

TraceRoute Statistics for www.cnet.com
9 packets transmitted, 9 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 10/80/220

Sending 48 data bytes to www.apple.com [17.254.3.81]

1:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [24.0.132.1] cr1-hfc4.dt1.sdca.home.net in 20 msec.
2:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [24.0.3.1] bb1-fe0-0-100bt.rdc1.sdca.home.net in 10 msec.
3:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [172.16.0.129] ? in 70 msec.
4:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [192.157.69.51] sprint-nap.bbnplanet.net in 70 msec.
5:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [4.0.1.25] nyc1-br2.bbnplanet.net in 70 msec.
6:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [4.0.2.13] cleveland1-br2.bbnplanet.net in 80 msec.
7:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [4.0.2.5] cleveland1-br1.bbnplanet.net in 80 msec.
8:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [4.0.2.9] chicago1-br1.bbnplanet.net in 90 msec.
9:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [4.0.1.1] paloalto-br1.bbnplanet.net in 80 msec.
10:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [131.119.0.204] paloalto-cr4.bbnplanet.net in 90 msec.
11:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [131.119.26.30] appl.bbnplanet.net in 90 msec.
12:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [205.180.175.30] ton.apple.com in 90 msec.
13:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 0: [17.254.3.81] www.apple.com, 48 bytes in 91 msec.

TraceRoute Statistics for www.apple.com
13 packets transmitted, 13 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 10/71/91

Sending 48 data bytes to phasor.cts.com [205.163.24.165]

1:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [24.0.132.1] cr1-hfc4.dt1.sdca.home.net in 10 msec.
2:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [24.0.3.1] bb1-fe0-0-100bt.rdc1.sdca.home.net in 10 msec.
3:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [172.16.0.117] ? in 20 msec.
4:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [172.16.4.1] ? in 20 msec.
5:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [198.32.136.89] mae-west.atmnet.net in 20 msec.
6:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [207.67.242.6] sd-gw-1-OC3c.atmnet.net in 40 msec.
7:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [207.67.240.114] cts-gw.atmnet.net in 40 msec.
8:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 0: [205.163.24.165] phasor.cts.com, 48 bytes in 40 msec.

TraceRoute Statistics for www.cts.com
8 packets transmitted, 8 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 10/25/40

Sending 48 data bytes to www1.playboy.com [205.216.146.201]

1:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [24.0.132.1] cr1-hfc4.dt1.sdca.home.net in 20 msec.
2:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [24.0.3.1] bb1-fe0-0-100bt.rdc1.sdca.home.net in 10 msec.
3:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [172.16.0.125] ? in 71 msec.
4:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [192.41.177.118] mae-east.isi.net in 70 msec.
5:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [206.251.0.1] core1-hssi1-0.MV.isi.net in 90 msec.
6:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 0: [205.216.146.201] www1.playboy.com, 48 bytes in 110 msec.

TraceRoute Statistics for www.playboy.com
6 packets transmitted, 6 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 10/61/110

Sending 48 data bytes to www.wsj.com [206.157.193.20]

1:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [24.0.132.1] cr1-hfc4.dt1.sdca.home.net in 10 msec.
2:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [24.0.3.1] bb1-fe0-0-100bt.rdc1.sdca.home.net in 10 msec.
3:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [172.16.0.125] ? in 71 msec.
4:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [192.41.177.180] cpe3-fddi-0.washington.mci.net in 70 msec.
5:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [204.70.1.221] core1-hssi3-0.Washington.mci.net in 80 msec.
6:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [204.70.1.49] core2-hssi2-0.WestOrange.mci.net in 80 msec.
7:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [204.70.64.52] borderx1-fddi-1.WestOrange.mci.net in 80 msec.
8:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [204.70.64.102] dow-jones.WestOrange.mci.net in 80 msec.
9:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [206.157.192.15] ? in 80 msec.
10:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [206.157.193.24] ? in 80 msec.
11:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 0: [206.157.193.20] ?, 48 bytes in 81 msec.

TraceRoute Statistics for www.wsj.com
11 packets transmitted, 11 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 10/65/81

Sending 48 data bytes to nic.funet.fi [128.214.248.6]

1:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [24.0.132.1] cr1-hfc4.dt1.sdca.home.net in 20 msec.
2:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [24.0.3.1] bb1-fe0-0-100bt.rdc1.sdca.home.net in 10 msec.
3:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [172.16.0.125] ? in 70 msec.
4:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [192.41.177.241] sl-mae-e-f0-0.sprintlink.net in 70 msec.
5:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [144.232.8.25] ? in 70 msec.
6:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [144.232.8.1] sl-pen-18-P1/0/0-155M.sprintlink.net in 80 msec.
7:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [144.228.60.101] icm-pen-2-F1/0.icp.net in 80 msec.
8:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [198.67.142.78] icm-tl2-10-P1/0-STM1.icp.net in 161 msec.
9:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [198.67.142.126] icm-kth-11-P0/0/0.icp.net in 170 msec.
10:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [198.67.142.250] ? in 170 msec.
11:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [192.36.148.54] fi-gw.nordu.net in 180 msec.
12:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 0: [128.214.248.6] nic.funet.fi, 48 bytes in 180 msec.

TraceRoute Statistics for www.funet.fi
12 packets transmitted, 12 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 10/105/180

Sending 48 data bytes to www.cnbc.com [192.35.39.106]

1:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [24.0.132.1] cr1-hfc4.dt1.sdca.home.net in 30 msec.
2:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [24.0.3.1] bb1-fe0-0-100bt.rdc1.sdca.home.net in 10 msec.
3:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [172.16.0.125] ? in 70 msec.
4:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [192.41.177.180] cpe3-fddi-0.washington.mci.net in 190 msec.
5:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [204.70.1.221] core1-hssi3-0.Washington.mci.net in 80 msec.
6:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [204.70.1.6] core1-hssi-3.NewYork.mci.net in 130 msec.
7:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [204.70.3.18] border2-fddi-0.NewYork.mci.net in 360 msec.
8:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [204.70.45.10] jvncnet-ges-ds3.NewYork.mci.net in 130 msec.
9:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [130.94.40.251] ge.jvnc.net in 90 msec.
10:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 0: [192.35.39.106] www.cnbc.com, 48 bytes in 90 msec.

TraceRoute Statistics for www.cnbc.com
10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip (ms) min/avg/max = 10/118/360

Sending 48 data bytes to ldwww.excite.com [198.3.98.99]

1:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [24.0.132.1] cr1-hfc4.dt1.sdca.home.net in 10 msec.
2:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [24.0.3.1] bb1-fe0-0-100bt.rdc1.sdca.home.net in 10 msec.
3:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [172.16.0.125] ? in 70 msec.
4:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [192.41.177.147] f6.peer1.wdc1.genuity.net in 70 msec.
5:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [207.240.56.21] h1.core1.wdc1.genuity.net in 70 msec.
6:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [207.240.1.33] f6.core1.sjc1.genuity.net in 101 msec.
7:No packet received from intermediate hop.
8:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [207.240.24.202] excite-peer.sjc.genuity.net in 100 msec.
9:Rcvd ICMP pkt type 11: [207.79.79.102] chewie-atm.excite.com in 100 msec.
10:No packet received from intermediate hop.
11:No packet received from intermediate hop.

(Another traceroute-unfriendly site - and who the hell is genuity.net?)
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