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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: TimF who wrote (21189)3/11/2002 10:42:19 PM
From: craig crawford  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
real wages have plummeted

>> Nonsense. The total of wages and benefits has increased (not every year, year on year but during every 10 or 15 year period). <<

i'm sorry but you are the one talking nonsense. real wages have been in decline since 1973.

>> People have bigger houses, fancier cars, a lot more electronics and computers. <<

what a nonsensical argument. we have a lot more computers and electronics and fancier cars because of advancements in technology, not because of free trade.

>> People have more now then they did 20 years ago or 30 or 40 or 50 years ago. <<

another silly argument. there are many factors, including technology, but an important one you fail to take into account is the fact that 30, 40, 50 years ago women weren't in the workforce like they are today. 50 years ago it didn't take two workers to buy a nice house and support and send your kids to college. it could be done with one wage earner. now it takes two wage earners and couples struggle to own their own home and provide for a nice large family.

>> By being a lot more productive and by being closer to the market for their goods <<

if we are so much more productive why are companies packing up and shipping out, moving manufacturing abroad? how do you explain GM being the largest private employer in mexico? how do you explain companies like IBM and Ford with more foreign workers than domestic?

>> The typical worker making 50 cents a day might be an uneducated child or teenager in a third world country with no advanced production equipment. The free trade might cause the third world worker to lose their job instead because the better paid workers in industrialized countries are more productive <<

is an american worker more productive than the labor of 40 mexicans? you can hire 40 mexicans for the price of an american. is it the technology that makes us more productive than mexico? obviously that makes no difference, GM has not opened a new assembly plant in the US in around 15 years! you can simply pack up our superior technology and ship it out to mexico or china.
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