Problem is, Sammy, when your inside whispers said the company was going up, you posted the info, but when you learned TRKR had nothing you kept silent about it. I know because you told me in private email that TRKR has nothing, and then you criticized me for posting the private email -- and in so doing admitted it's authenticity.
How many shares did you get of TRKR in any way but the open market? How many for "consulting"? How many at a reduced rate? Or did you just pass along your inside information because it made you feel important?
In the end, TRKR won't go bankrupt because it has nothing to sell off after blowing through $25M or so in loans and shareholder investments. So the magic hi-tech you and Patwrk always said the company had is baloney -- this company has nothing, nothing whatsoever to sell off. Something I pointed out over 2 years ago, and despite your extraordinary rudeness.
So in the end TRKR turned out to be a very beautiful scam -- all lies, and with nothing left there's no assets to put into bankruptcy or sue. And if I could tell that from my armchair, how you could you not know with all your "due diligence"?
Now let's take a peak at your private email. You can't object being confronted with you own words.
ragingbull.lycos.com
But you ought to apologize to all the people you led on by not telling them the bad news when you learned the bad news. And if you were paid in shares or reduced rate shares or inside info about other stocks you ought to confess that too. You ought also to confess there was no "due diligence" -- otherwise you would know what I knew for 2++ years, that there were no rooms of programmers, no product, no customers, no money coming in, NOTHING.
- Charles
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Here's a good one too: ragingbull.lycos.com
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Here's where you admit the following post is authetically from SamDan
ragingbull.lycos.com
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ragingbull.lycos.com
SAM DAN SPEAKS! (hot!!!!)
does everybody get this?
TRKR is now whispersing that it never even owned the asset system --- so even if it existed (dubious) and was worth something (ha!) it's not TRKR's anymore.
Of course, it never disclosed those weeee facts to shareholders.
And you folks are mad at *me*! ha!
Hey, Canuck, what's your expert opinion about *this*?
Or maybe you're not an expert in scams, which is where expertise is needed here.
- Charles
======= FROM SAM-DAN to Tilyou === private email===========
Crow doesn't taste very good.
Our 'sources' tell us the debenture holders will probably NOT put the company into bankrupcy as there is a 20 million dollar tax loss that would be of value if they kept company alive as a shell and eventually move a revenue generating company into the shell.Probably after a reverse share move.About 192 million shares oustanding[or maybe 92 million-not sure.
Contrary to your emphasis on double bar code- the real value of the company is their new asset management technology but our 'sources' say that the people involved in developing this technology did it without payment from TRKR and may have a legitimate right to take the technology with them .
Any comments?
========== MY ANSWER ==============
Saturday, February 23, 2002 1:06 AM ET
To: SAM-DAN (who wrote)
From: Charles B. Kramer
Well, first, thanks for your very civil response!
I don't take pleasure from others misfortune... but, yeah, I suppose there's a certain pleasure in being right about TRKR.
--'sources' tell us the debenture holders will probably NOT
--put the company into bankrupcy as there is a 20 million
--dollar tax loss that would be of value if they kept
--company alive as a shell and eventually move a revenue
--generating company into the shell.
I have no opinion about all that. I am amazed at the many many millions (isn't it more than $20M overall?) that TRKR has burned through, with very little to show for it.
--Contrary to your emphasis on double bar code- the real
--value of the company is their new asset management
--technology but our 'sources' say that the people involved
--in developing this technology did it without payment from
--TRKR and may have a legitimate right to take the
--technology with them .
--Any comments?
I am very skeptical that TRKR ever had any technology that was worth anything -- there are just too many 2d Bar code companies out there with real applications targeted for particular industries. TRKR doens't have the experience or personnel to develop anything, and its boasts about what it was developing were so big the more likely truth is it has zero.
And nobody develops technology for nothing -- I mean, they could have done the work purely for themselves. Maybe parttime devlopers would work for shares.
For TRKR to claim to own technology it could lose is a major scandal -- something that should have been reported in TRKR SEC statements.
My guess? It's just a way for TRKR to cover up the fact that they have nothing. "Oh, we 'HAD' something", your source seem to be telling you, "but the developers got to take it away'".
Ha!
In any event, thanks for writing and good luck in your investments.
- Charles |
