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To: Lane3 who wrote (7266)	4/5/2002 8:09:54 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) of 21057

I think Neo is distinguishing between the cultural relativism/cultural deference/inclusiveness of the left and his assertion that Western culture is clearly superior in most ways The problem is that inclusiveness of other values and opinions IS NOT rejection of the fundamental values that all Americans hold and which are properly understood as "values and practices of Western Civilization" "we should not undermine those institutions in favor of big government" Government was one of the cherished institutions he referenced in response to my query. Again, acknowledging differences in the details is not the same as phrasing broad statements so as to be intentionally exclusive or misleading. "A bit of hyperbole, perhaps. Conservatives would be resistant to change and liberals are activist change agents." "a bit of hyperbole..."! Have you thought of taking up the law in your retirement. You have the gift, Karen! "This Western culture is so integral to the world view of traditionalists that they get really aroused and upset and dug in when their traditions are challenged, which is disruptive" So do liberals...traditionalist or otherwise... "Well, you see, that wouldn't be activist. That would be restoring things to where they should be, where they would have been had the liberals and the courts not been so activist these last few decades." Well, the dictionary defines activism as "a doctrine or practice that emphasizes direct vigorous action especially in support of or opposition to one side of a controversial issue I suppose that conservatives and liberals both support and oppose controversial issues...:-) But, I think much of what you say is perhaps tongue in cheek.<g> "Merit has been undermined by affirmative action." Disagreeing on the details does not exclude the commonality... "Devotion to duty has been ridiculed by the "what can my country do for me" attitude of the nanny state Naw. There may be difference of opinion as to what the duties should be; but liberals are every bit as devoted to duty as conservatives...especially if they work for the Government. <g> "Honesty and trustworthiness may be references to Clinton and those who vote for him despite his character flaws" Yes. On that basis all liberals are untrustworthy and dishonest. And all republicans were dishonest and untrustworthy when Harding and Grant were in power! It is all so amusing. Thanks for joining in, Karen. I certainly am no apologist for William, nor for liberalism. There is much to ridicule and much to praise in either half of the American populace. However...as we are having some fun, let us laugh at a bit of humour!:-) I am sure I can find plenty from the other side if you are interested... leftjab.org

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