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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices

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To: tejek who wrote (145126)4/15/2002 5:02:11 PM
From: Joe NYC  Read Replies (1) of 1573556
 
Ted,

you talk of the Palestinians like white men may have talked about blacks in this country 50-60 years ago. Many white people then [as well as now} thought that blacks were not willing to work, that they were incapable of a professional position, were probably intellectually inferior to whites and that essentially they were pretty much shiftless.

I wasn't talking about capability. There are a lot of capable Arabs in the US, who are working hard, prospering. I was talking about making it a priority. If Palestinians made it a priority to have a better life, over the futile attempt to push the Jews to the sea, they would have had a better life.

There are good people everywhere.......I don't believe Palestine has been left out.

Their voices just can't be heard.

Oh screw that.........I am to feel bad that Bill Gates pays half his income to federal taxes. He has more money than God and even at the rate he gives it away, he will leave billions to his progeny. I can't get all teary eyed for the rich.........they do very well in this country thank you very much!!

There you go again. Taking half of Bill Gate's year after year is fine, and you will not get teary eyed about it. How about Israel confiscating half of Muslim land? The Jews had nothing, Arabs have plenty. Or do you have one system of justice for the rich, different one for the rest?

I think this class warfare idea of socialists is so ingrained in you that you no longer perceive it. Certainly you feel that violence or threat of violence is fine to extract half of the wealth of the rich (while others don't have to contribute).

I think the taxing arrangements in this country are very fair. Do you have a specific gripe?

Definitely. A system where 5% of taxpayers is paying 55% of income taxes is very unbalanced and unfair. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

There are tax provision apply to everyone except "the rich" I don't know if it is even constitutional to have a double standard, double sets of laws, where some laws apply to some citizens, others don't.

First, 50 years is not a long time for people to feel angry. Besides, the Germans of 50 years ago had advantages that the Palestinians have never had.

What would those advantages be?

Plus, the Arabs and the Israelis have used the Palestinians as their pawns in their bitter conflict.......and the Palestinians know that.

Again the moral equivalency. There was time where the misguided part of your party claimed moral equivalency between Communism and the Free World. Fortunately, they never completely took over the Democrat party. There were still enough good people left who contributed to bringing about the end of Communism. Why is it that there must be a moral equivalency?

Arabs refused to admit Palestinian Arabs the way West Germany accepted German refugees. Is Israel to blame for that? Israel may have a blame for what happened 50+ years ago, but since then, the instigators of this never ending conflict have been Arabs, despite your best efforts to deflect the blame from them.

I don't know why Sharon is behaving the way he is nor why Arafat acts the way he does...........they've been fightng for so long, they probably don't know themselves at this point.

Ok, let me ask you this question differently. Suppose Arafat, Palestinians, Hamas, whatever) have not started the terror attacks with their suicide bombings. Do you think Sharon would today be ordering tanks to re-occupy West Bank. Do you thing there would even be a prime minister named Sharon?

Sharon phenomenon is just a natural effect to what Palestinians started, and they have no one else (other than themselves) to blame.

Joe

PS: I just want to commend you for hanging on, and arguing your points with civility.
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