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To: Lane3 who wrote (9518)	4/17/2002 7:00:42 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) of 21057

I don't think the motivation is anti-progress either. Perhaps a different opinion about what constitutes progress. Of course your free to believe that Bush's opinion on this issue is wrong and so he would in your opinion be a practical obsticle to progress but that wouldn't mean he is anti-progress. "Flat-earther" isn't IMO any more accurate then "luddite". If I was somehow converted to your opinion on the stem cell/cloning issue I would focus on the idea that he is wrong more then an obstacle to progress. When socialism was thought to be the next big thing anti-socialists where seen as being anti-progress by socialists because they opposed "scientifically planing" the economy. The analogy to the cloning issues is less then perfect because socialism demonstratively didn't work, while cloning hasn't demonstrated much either way, and probably will actually produce some benefits, my point is just that progress is in the eye of the beholder. If socialism actually did produce wealth as well as capitalism I would still have problems with it and might not see it as progress. Tim

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