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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices

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To: tejek who wrote (145881)4/22/2002 7:09:44 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) of 1575421
 
Tim, your defense of guns is really beneath who you are.

You must have a high opinion of me if you think defending our constitutional rights, freedom in general, and the ability to defend ourselves from armed criminals is somhow beneath who I am.

Like I said, its beneath the kind of person you are to continue to defend such stupidity.

That's just a stupid argument. You just found an example of a deadly accident with guns so now all arguments about the right to have them is stupid and low... I could come up with a bunch of arguments about horrible things that happened in or because of cars, swimming pools, stairways, showers, even buckets of water. Does that mean that we shouldn't be allowed to have any of these things and any argument that we should is stupid and low.

And if you disagree, that's fine but I don't want to argue the point anymore.

I probably won't initate the argument., but if you make a statement supporting the banning of guns on a public forum that I participate in you will get a response. You can of course always choose to ignore it

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(re abortion)
I think woman should play the primary role in deciding......after all, its their bodies.

and the bodies of their children.

Excuse me, you are the one for individual rights......do you mean individual rights only for men?

No. Individual rights for all people, male or female, born or unborn.

" If you assume abortion is the killing of an innocent human then it doesn't make sense that men can't try to save these unborn children. If you assume that abortion is just removing a blob of cells then it makes no sense that men shouldn't be able to fight restrictions against abortion. "

I am not making that (the 1st) assumption, you are.


I didn't say you where. The whole statement stands together thats why I put it back together when I quoted your quote of it. If abortion is just fine, then restricting it does restrict a women's rights unfairly. If abortion is killing an innocent young human, then it should be outlawed. Either way it makes no sense to say men shouldn't be involved.

They have.. (fought against restrictions on abortion)....abortions are only allowed up until the end of the first trimester.

So men can only get involved if they support your viewpoint?

Tim
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