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Gold/Mining/Energy : International Precious Metals (IPMCF)

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To: Tim Hall who wrote (35334)4/24/2002 8:04:20 AM
From: Chuca Marsh   of 35569
 
Tim and All( Hey Lew I met you way back How you doing ?) what was the real FIERO BROS story?
FIERO BROS: dejavue ...so what was the REAL STORY on The FIERO BROS? Anyone?
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By: Chucka $$$$$
24 Apr 2002, 07:56 AM EDT Msg. 5784 of 5784
(This msg. is a reply to 5778 by coolguy225.)
Mr ~Lguy, have you ever heard of the Fiero Brothers, in NYC? Where the heckdid you come up with that? mining stock I was in had same refertance toa BROTHERS THAT SHORT'ed it down( a DIFFERENT than LAMP co.). There was anold rumor in the past that hurt many of us in 1999( not LAMP ) that it wasall the Fault Of "The Brothers". No damn way ...unless they had SHARES ofsome BIG investor and there was a rumor that a BIG guy from the Free TradingDays was selling out into the run to $6 dash teens$s all the way down to$2 ish where I exited with a multi ten thousand dollar billS loss. THEY HADNO APPROVALS IN THAT SPECIFIC COMPANIES' EXPLORATION whereas WE AT LAMP haveFDA approval and a Money in the Bank PRODUCT SUITE MULTIPLE STREAMS of income.And no damn it all meathead consultant OI hope who decided to sell it OUTas did that Mining Company that ran up from 20 cents in a year to $14 soi say never blame the brothers anymore because I never understoood any blameother than the FUNDIES. The L in ur name takes me back, I am glad you don'trwrite that that L guy who came up with the Fiero Brothers. I almost saidto myself is this Dejavue and said no way COOLguy is not ever writing likethat L Guy LOL. I almost had a V-8. I coulda had a V-8, I shoulda Had a LAMPROGINIE!I know that, WE HAVE FDA approvals...any old lurkers out there remember methere atthat 35,000 Postings board from a time long ago in land so very faraway? No way this is different THIS IS FDA approval LAMP.
Chucka The Brothers MY m'ARSH - it is never the brothers ...it is DAMN IT ALL MM short CONSPIRACY:
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(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long; ST Rating- Strong Buy; LT Rating- Strong Buy)

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By: coolguy225
23 Apr 2002, 09:46 PM EDT Msg. 5778 of 5784
(This msg. is a reply to 5777 by rayk.)
rayk,the Robinson Bros.make a very profitable living shorting OTCBB companies.Theyhave an office on Bay St. in Toronto.They are successful in ruining companies,butdid not succeed in the demise of LAM.They shorted LAM when it was at itshigh(6.50) and brought it down to 0.44.They do not enjoy being denied,andare multi millionaires.They must be brought to justice,as it is not a certainty,butthey may certainly have their claws dug in once again!
ragingbull.lycos.com
and ACCS at ACCI board: www.geyserbev.com
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By: coolguy225
23 Apr 2002, 08:15 PM EDT Msg. 4422 of 4423
(This msg. is a reply to 4421 by Chucka.)
Chuckster I respect your way of expressing your thoughts,live and let livebrother,we all are all unique.If we were all clones it would be rather boring!Blessyou and your articulation,but please let's get realistic about what is happeningto our investment!It is time for action Chuckster,we can bat a blind eyeto it and hope it all goes away,or pressure management to deal with the RobinsonBrothers who shorted this company from 6.50 to 0.44.This was before you werefamiliarized to Lam Chuck,but they are back!

(Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long)

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By: Chucka $$$$$
23 Apr 2002, 07:59 PM EDT Msg. 4421 of 4423
(This msg. is a reply to 4420 by Zaad.)
Stream Of Writting Version at Botton a SONG and I work at SVED LOL
Yes sir ree. Here we have a future in water as a commodity in a merger.The Interview was great. I suspect he never heard it, did I write on thewords some 3 weeks ago. Or were they filtered out? I think the words saidwere showing us that this is not a PIECE OFs ...but a Piece Of The Geyserof Life. POTGOL
Is there such a word? Every post of mine will startPOT GOLLY. Scratch that. Every post of mine will start Golly. Geyser Of Life'sLittle Yellow submarine. We all live in a yellow submarine, a yellow Submarine,a yellow submarine. Our little bottle is Aquamarine - blueish aquamarine,bluish aquamarine. Let tell you about a geysers' fountain, which the wateris crisp and clear. Altogether now, we all by golly live in a yellow aquamarineturquoise submarine. Again, as we all say - Altogether now, we all by gollylive in a yellow aquamarine turquoise submarine. A life in a gosh oh gollyyellow aquamarine turquoise submarine. Bottle up and cap it too. Start withclear plastic and turn it blue. Spin the top and squeeze it out so don'tlet the nahsayers make Zaad pout.
ChuckaOriginalWorkattributedto The Beatles.

\ FIRST VERSION: BELOW SEC Disclosure SVED post #33 there for workmention there I do, for saying their name here as not working at ACCI/ACCS- I suppose it is proper to say.

Yes sir ree. Here we have a future in water as a commodity in a merger.The Interview was great. I suspect he never heard it, did I write on thewor
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To:kimberley hanna who wrote (20023)
From: Lew Green Sunday, Sep 7, 1997 2:10 AM
Respond to of 35338

<<I have never hid the fact that I trade... for one, it's how I make a living, it's my job>>Actually you sure did hide that from me when you called for DD on IPM in March and wanted to know my take on the 95 BD report. Of course you started the conversation with several blatent lies, before wanting to talk substantively. I got the feeling you were looking for something and was rather surprised when you never called back like you said to go over some more things. Kim, I don't post much anymore, I agree with Larry in many areas on this, I don't want to post unless I can be substantive most of the time. The following while may be uncomfortable, is intended for clearing the air, and you've asked for what might have caused it:I don't know exactly why Matt lost it with you -- but perhaps he's seen you come off here as I have. This is my _perception_ of your posts from over 1 year both on SI and Compuserve.In the early stages of IPM, from $2 to $5,50 and from $5.50 to $14.00; I percieved _nothing_ from you but "happy talk" or "cheerleading". Queen of the "we gonna be rich-to the moon" club; along with a mix of "doll's" sexual flirtation with the most macho men on the thread, which always seem rather blantent and kinda like playing them -- which in that area most of us men are saps I agree. I can find nothing in my Compuserve archives that differes from this pattern, and certainly never any talk of aggressive trading, or any posts with a (in retrospect I admit) _wise_, cynical, jaded traders advice for people to not get too excited, too soon. From my perspective (and I could be wrong of course) it seems like you decided: "Here's a shakey little stock that's getting promoted and people are going too hypey over on-line and so is bound to run, and I can help hype it while I play the volatility these irrationally exhuberant suckers are bound to create."I personally have no problem with this. I don't even have that much problem with the fibs on the phone call. I did have a problem with what came next. From my perspective it seemed like you burst on the SI IPM thread on the attack with Mark Bartlett, solely to run IPM down in every and any possible way, often with twisted logic and nit-picking detail. For me, this was real hard to take after 6 months of "Ra, Ra, give me an I, give me a P, give me an M..." on Compuserve. At the time I thought your appearance was solely motivated as Mark's was, retribution for my rebuttals to Rod Curry on Compuserve -- or at other times, punishing CL for being unfairly rude to Claude. I don't really have a problem with the retribution perse, but would have prefered personal attacks, not what appeared to me disingenuous, inacurate and dis-informational attacks on IPM as an investment, opportunisticly _timed_ during a climate of fear, when the thread was already dominated by shorts and Findley/Giese/Zeev etc. Now, when one realizes you _MAKE A LIVING_ trading stocks -- that adds a whole new perspective! And I do like knowing this -- and the next time you nitpick down both Midas' IPM position _and_ bullish outlook, I won't waste so much time rebutting and just laugh and post, "Oh, so you're out now -- what's your target for reloading?"So, you see it is the past mix that perhaps, to some, rightly or wrongly, makes your posts seem kind of phoney. I do _now_ know you to be a tenatious trader. A savvy woman due dilligently and then some ever searching for an "edge" -- the deepest desire of every trader I suppose. But many of us I think didn't know your agenda back when, so perhaps now with all the _dozens_ of daily posts here now, a few people are finding them tedious. Not me. But I don't read most of the thread. The other area that might have caused Matt's attitude, was after your previously blistering criticism of IPM, you went into a _very_ upbeat mode on CHIP which certainly has it's own past problems just like IPC/IPM's. Now, it may just be a coincidence, but around that time there was a rumor campaign (started somewhere???) on CHIP that had a _false_ buzz going around that Mintek was about to sign off on a Fire Assay at the Las Vegas gold show. I did some DD and found confirmed from 2 sources that CHIP had talks with, but did not hire Mintek. And of course the stock tanked when this didn't materialize. True, it's back up now -- but many people I think jumped on for that hype, and then bailed at a loss. As I said, this may all be mis-percieved coincidence, but it could explain Matt's post also. Lew Green



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Again, I've moved on in life and won't respond to anything here. I just don't have time. As to the people who curse, goad and accuse people when it's convenient, I don't care anyway. But as for some I remember, really nice people caught in a bad stock, like Furry Otter, Roger, Rick, Karl,Chuck B, Chucka, Howie, and a lot of others -- man, I hope you've gone on to better things -- and that life brings you better things -- and you all still have my number any time you want to talk.Lew Green
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To:dave rose who wrote (34998)
From: Lew Green Friday, Sep 22, 2000 8:34 PM
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Wow... someone I spoke to by chance the other day told me my name popped up here. I can't believe this thread is still here... in answer to the question: <<what happened to lew green>> My last post years ago, if you look back is when i got really disillusioned that ipm management was not just incompetent, but thieves... it had to do with doyle selling a buncha worthless namibian shares to ipm, hence raiding most of it's last cash... and then I found out from someone inside the co. about literal orgies of spending by furlong and menzer and that paul's 4 cars were all leased by ipm and it all started to depressingly fit badly... I stopped posting then because I had nothing good to say, and the shorts had won at that point and there was little point in posting. I was also keeping a low profile because I was trying to do something behind the scenes. I tried it because i still thought the property was viable and gold was there, bla, bla, bla... So i had the phone numbers of all these huge investors who because of my posts regularly called me for scoop... but mostly to nervously hold each others hands (as we all did most of the time) Anyway, this one broker in the UK had something like 25% of ipm's shares in his institutional client's accounts... and I hooked him up on the phone with all the other big ones I knew, including finally cap guardian. I got them all talking to each other, and tried to get them force furlong and doyle out in a proxy fight... The UK broker finally confronted doyle but, i don't know, somehow doyle backed him down... and at that point I gave up hope. And it was time to back to (real) work. As time went on i saw it had been like an addiction... and it was also very damaging to self-esteem. I kept telling myself, well, I was an idiot right along with PHD's (I followed one into the dd's after hitting on a stock, CNXS, and feeling like a genius) and all these fund managers I was talking to all the time at these prestigious firms, and lawyers, and even PHD engineers at Intel. There were some really, smart and really, really good people in the damn thing -- most who never posted here. But O.H. finally hit it right on -- ipm was like a cult (and it's so funny, cause the crazy tactics of the shorts actually increased the cult factor, by rallying the blind loyalty of the longs like myself) So i tried to say to myself, well, i'm not so dumb, coulda happened to anyone... look at all these smart people I got sucked in with, but still i was pretty depressed over it for quite a while... I couldn't face even reading the thread -- worse than loosing that much money was it cost a year of my life I spent obsessing on it, night and day, wearing a quote beeper, reading and writing all the posts, not to mention email and phone calls.
I haven't bought a share of any stock since then and probably never will for the rest of my life. It's obviously not my forte, and I don't like the lifestyle (watching a ticker)and I'm gonna focus on doing what I know and enjoy.
Since IPM, I wrote some scripts for hire, did some corporate web writing and design (an online user manual for a y2k fix it company) and I'm halfway through my first novel. I'm also launching a small business that's media related. And I ain't drivin no viper! Toyota pickup like before. I'm almost sad I did look at the thread but couldn't resist. I read some of the innuendos. For what it's worth, I never disappeared, just didn't want to spend time in futility posting. About 100 IPM investors, many on SI, had (and still have) my phone number and it hasn't changed. My e-mail was the same for about 2 years after, but i finally dropped primenet for earthlink. I'm still living in the same 2 bedroom apartment in LA and I never got anything out of IPM in the end but grief -- but also finally, some painful knowledge of taking responsibility. It was my own fault, no matter who I want to blame. It was all our own fault. The warning bells were right under our noses. Most of us "visited" with these people. The rich houses, the fancy cars, the huge salaries based on no performance, the meals and lavish parties at the AGM -- the ritz-carlton for a penny stock that didn't have a dime of real equity or income. Who cares if gold was there? They were obviously not the kind of people who would ever make it happen; they were having a party. The red lights were flashing right in front of my eyes, but the hypnosis of greed made me blind. My fault. So i have to let go the blame, and know somehow this will help my life by learning from it. Anyway, that's what I've been up to. I may have been naieve and I may have been wrong, but I have always been and will always be upfront. No, I've never posted here since then. Not under another name. I wouldn't bother. I still have my old IPM shares in my unopened statements, anyone who wants to visit can take a look. I also have a certificate of 1500 MGAU private placement shares I bought when I was a believer. I can't deal with the paperwork it takes to get em unrestricted and sell em. Anyone can have em at 50 cents on the dollar if they can handle it. I just don't have time. Again, I've moved on in life and won't respond to anything here. I just don't have time. As to the people who curse, goad and accuse people when it's convenient, I don't care anyway. But as for some I remember, really nice people caught in a bad stock, like Furry Otter, Roger, Rick, Karl,Chuck B, Chucka, Howie, and a lot of others -- man, I hope you've gone on to better things -- and that life brings you better things -- and you all still have my number any time you want to talk.Lew Green

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