< You can NOT get something for nothing. >
Who said that you could?
< If one makes hydrogen from water as was shown in the BMW link, you will need a tremendous amount of electricity. >
Hydrogen made from electrolysis is close to 90% efficient using the latest engineering. If off-peak electricity is used, which will probably be the case, then electricity that would have been wasted would be creating a fuel. You don't just turn down huge power plants such, as nuclear, for the few hours at night that the demand is low. Creating hydrogen during those off-peak hours makes the over-all plant efficiency higher.
Using hydrogen created at 90% efficiency in a fuel cell at 50% efficiency makes for an overall efficiency of 45%. Gasoline engine have about 17% efficiency. Less from well to wheels.
Gasoline also takes energy to produce and does not occur naturally.
< No. >
Really? You need to inform the oil industry of your process that uses no energy.
< Gasoline is made from distilling crude oil. Hence the term "crude". >
No shit? I'm learning more every day. Thanks.
< Your windmills and solar panels will need at least and EQUAL amount of per unit of energy as that in hydrogen. In practice you'll need even more energy because of inefficiencies in production and transportation. >
So? Like you said, you don't get anything for free. Except that the process that you and Bush admire takes stinking goop out of the ground, some of which spilled, runs it through a refinery which stinks and pollutes the air, (I live 30 miles from Corpus Christi, Tx. which is full of refineries. Spare me the lesson on how modern refineries are clean. They are CLEANER, but not clean.), then we take the resulting gasoline and run it through inefficient SUVs which further pollutes the air, but I guess that's the way you like it. I don't. There is a better way, and when the Cheney/Bush administration gets out of the way, we will begin to make progress.
Inefficiencies for creating and transporting count for hydrogen , but they don't for gasoline?
< Here it is one more time, I do not know of any free sources of hydrogen gas on planet earth. >
Huge hydrogen stores found below Earth's crust.
Discovery suggests near limitless supply of clean fuel.
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In addition, green algae have been found that produce hydrogen directly from sunlight.
hfcletter.com
Try learning something about the subject before giving me a condescending lecture. Especially try listening to somebody else besides Exxon and the Cheney/Bush administration. Is there really a difference?
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