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Pastimes : THE SLIGHTLY MODERATED BOXING RING

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To: one_less who wrote (11355)5/10/2002 4:56:37 AM
From: Solon  Read Replies (2) of 21057
 
"The closest descriptor that I can come up with, at the moment, is “the beneficent.” This term describes a being who is kind, charitable, and considerate."

Well, that is fine. But how can you have such attributes without having desire? If you do not desire improvement or happiness...how can you will such change? If your will is not based on the motive of desire...then what is the motive?

"I offered a definition of a God who is truly Omnipotent, non-dependant, non-anthropomorphic, beyond materialistic descriptors, eternal, and infinite"

You have offered a description of a black hole. You have described something alien and inhuman, and lacking (naturally) in human character.

I have always been repelled by this inhuman conception. You apparently feel differently.

If nothing mattered to human beings they would have no basis on which to assign different values to different outcomes. But it does matter to us; and so we make choices.

But what of God? God could not make rational choices without first determining value. The act of acknowledging that something is incomplete or imperfect is an act of acknowledging a sense of personal incompleteness if one is the creator of all things. So we may name a couple of problems: 1). What is the motive for "creation", and 2). What is the explanation for "Concern" or "consideration"?

What does a complete and perfect being who cannot be changed, moved, or affected have to be "concerned" about?? Do you see the problem?

You try to give this entity human qualities, and you make Him vulnerable. You make Him invulnerable, and you make Him inhuman. You cannot have it both ways.

Then there is what we call "evil". You say it is perfect. Well, people can say anything, can't they? But saying that bad is good and vice versa is awfully silly, and really just a moral dead-end...
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