Ted,
JH: Palestinians are just the tip of the iceberg, they are trying to incite the Arab world, which can pose serious threat to Israel.
Joe, the Palestinians are not trying to incite the other Arabs, because they don't need to........the other Arabs are incited already. I think its us they are trying to incite.
They have succeeded.
Then why does Israel not offer reparation to the Palestinians for the land and property they took from the Palestinians in 1948? After all, the Israelis are litigating with the Swiss in order to get reparation for the property they lost during WW II.
It would have been a good poing in 1949. But in 2002 it is as ridiculous as the Jewish claims in 199?.
How did the Israelis go for peace in a big way? The Israelis notion of peace in a big way is to give the Palestinians an extension on their curfew.......you can stay out til midnite now instead 10 o'clock. Again, the truth is that there is a difference between what Israel would have us believe and what the reality is. I would not accept a peace and a proposal for statehood where the adjacent country gets to keep some of their citizens and military within my borders. Would you? That is one of several onerous stipulations placed on the issue of Palestinian statehood by Israel.
Israel got out of most of the occuppied territories, and transferred control to Palestinian Authority. I think it is a major step in direction of Palestinian Statehood. The land for peace had a broad support in Israel for some time, until Palestinian have not shown themself yet again what they are - terrorists.
neither of us are that stupid to believe such nonsense. The Israelis give concessions in centimeters and then take it all back at any sign of trouble. Israel wants the WB and Gaza for expansion purposes....that's the truth of the matter. And they come up with all kinds of reasons why they should be permitted to have them. When Sharon was Housing Minister in the early '90's, the areas that got the most new housing were the settlements in the occupied territories........now that shows his committment to a free and independent Palestinian state.
That's a major point of disagreement between the sides, but not worth resumption of war.
His popularity was at an all time low because he was giving away the store.
Palestinians started out with nothing, ended up with West Bank and Gaza. How exactly was Arafat giving away the store?
Would you then crush all the Palestinians in order to get rid of the few?
Yes, except the ones who will switch to our side and fight alongside the Hamas, Hezbullah etc. A line has to be drawn against the use of the hommicide attacks as a weapon. Any response to them is fair to me.
see the militant Islam in the same light as Nazi Germany. 9/11 may be like 1933. The militant Islam needs to be crushed, and why not do it while it is still weak?
I thought we were doing it. What is all the ruckus that's going on in Afghanistan? Training exercises?
Just as the Palestinians are just a tip of the iceberg in Arabs vs. Jews, Bin Ladin is just a tip of the iceberg of the radical Islam, which is a very deep problem, it goes beyond Afganistan. I am not quite sure if Iraq is the next logical step. I think Hamas is more of a target.
See it all comes down to fear. Do you really think that by killing all the terrorists the danger will go away and the fear will stop?
Killing all terrorists? Yes. The danger would go way down. What do you suggest? Not killing the terrorists? What do you think would be the result?
So long as things stay the way they are, with every terrorist we kill two more will pop up to take their place.
Then we just keep going until the supply runs out.
One example is the way the Brits exercised their mandate in Israel/Palestine. They were not fair......they treated the Palestinians like they were chattel. And when the Palestinian Arabs disagreed with Britain's handling of their affairs, they were put down and ignored.
What rights do Arabs have under Arab governments, or Palestinian Authority? None. Palestinian Authority is probably one of the worst of all of the Arab governments.
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