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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: tekboy who wrote (30667)5/25/2002 3:27:09 AM
From: frankw1900  Read Replies (3) of 281500
 
since disrupting al Qaeda will require the help of countries that don't want us to be aggressive on
Iraq.


And what about those countries, (Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan), which don't want the US to be successful against al Qaeda? They support it. Where does the US start dealing with them?

There is something skewed in the general picture. These middle east centers vomit hate against the west and the US, in particular. The rhetoric is of the same model as the Nazis pre WW2..

The "oldest ally" won't give the US cooperation on investigating the criminals who murdered 3000 citizens and says it's OK to pursue al Qaeda in Afghanistan providing, of course, the US doesn't use any useful part of the infra structure in Saudi.

Pakistan constantly double crosses the US in its efforts in Afghanistan.

Iraq, Iran and Syria give al Qaeda transit and support.

Al Qaeda is the military arm of a totalitarian movement aiming to take over the countries stretching from the west coast of Africa right into the western Pacific and which wants to change the life of Ameica and Europe and if it can't do that, kill the inhabitants. There are out of this vast population enough replacements for the few thousand al Qaeda that the US can kill or capture.

The approach has to be more fundamental than killing or capturing the operatives because the movement's goals are more fundamental than just murdering a few thousand New Yorkers. That post Jochen put up today from the German commision for defense of that country's constitution tells us practically everything we need to know about the islamist movement's aims in Europe and the murders of modernist mullahs and scholars and of jews, christians. animists, etc, elsewhere in the world tell you of it's ultimate goals.

I'm cranky tonight. Not well. Doesn't lead to tact: These guys are the same old assholes as before that made such a mess of Germany and Russia pre WW2. Different clothes and more ignorant, is all.

Ajami is tactful, but does he say anything different?

Did those two Iranian women say anything different?

Does your view of the islamist message tell you anything different?

frank@takeemattheirword.war
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