I did not get the facts all wrong. I saw things in a different light than you did. You know, there are interpretations and there are interpretations........
No, IRAQ reneged on its promise to give UN WMD inspectors free and unfettered inspections in IRAQ. Thus causing the US to stay in Saudi.
It seems this is just an excuse.
Yeah that is a good reason to attack civilians. The US base is not at any holy places in arabia.
True, but the Saudis simply object to US personnel in the proximity of their holy places. As a matter of fact,
US personnel have been seen lingering around Saudi holy places as visitors/spectators etc. Extremist elements object to the presence of the US infidels. It is easy to criticize the extremists (the Wahabbis) but, at one time in the history of the West, there were extremist Christians, too. Recall the massacres of the Cathars, Huguenots etc., and the Inquisition.
The Arabs receive 100`s of billions annually in oil revenues. The Arabs don`t care about the Palestinians. There really is no Palestinians. The west bank was part Jordan and gaza was part of Egypt. These two countries attacked Israel lost the land when they lost the war. Then the "Palestinians people" myth was created. The Arabs abandoned them after they lost the war.
Don't you think an equal amount of aid should be given to the Palestinians, if only to give them the satisfaction that the playing field
is not too far tilted in favor of Israel? Though the Arabs receive 100's of billons annually, much of the worth of that money has been eroded away by the financial and gold manipulations in the West. Maybe the manipulations were conducted deliberately because
they also have the effect of weakening the Arabs besides making inflation look benign and the economy was sputtering along fine.
Didn`t the Arabs start all the Wars?
Yes, they did start the wars. Do not, however, rule out the possibility they were manipulated/provoked into starting them.
Yep, the muslims invaded Europe 400 or so years ago. Lost that War too. They have a bad habit starting wars then losing them. Then whining about it. If you call $20-30 a barrel for oil exploting what would be a fair price for their oil? Seems to me that if the west really was exploting them. The west would just go in and take the oil for free. Hmmmm that is not a bad idea.
Maybe I didn't say it quite right. I should have said that because oil is indispensable to the West, the Middle East is of vital interest and concern to the West. I believe the Arabs are charging high prices because the money paid to them loses value due to inflation and manipulations of sorts in the West. It is true the West could have rushed in to take it all for free some time ago. But they couldn't or dared not do it because of the Soviet Union and because of world opinion. They certainly can still make a go at it now and see what might ensue.
The west does not fear Arabs. LMAO man that is funny. There is only one reason all arabs are not in slavery to the west. The reason is the morals of the west.
Depends on how you look at fear. The US so far has picked only on small targets like Libya and Somalia and Al Qaeda and the Taliban. The US had wanted to attack Syria at one time but it backed off because it feared the consequences/repercussions and world opinion. The Cold War was still on then. Saddam invaded Kuwait partly because he considers Kuwait to be Iraqi territory and partly because he thought he had the go-ahead from a female U.S. diplomat (one April???). In other words, he thought the U.S. would not interfere. It now appears either Saddam was manipulated into invading Iraq to provide an excuse to attack him, or the U.S. was obliged by other interested parties (say, Zionists) to do a 180 on Iraq. The U.S. has had its chance to finish off Saddam but it goofed at the last minute. Now the U.S. wants to attack Iraq again for fear Iraq might become too powerful in the region and be able to threaten its neighbors, especially Israel and control oil in the region.
You would have a point if the suicide bombing was targeted at military targets. But since they are targeted at Civilian targets they are nothing but brain washed cowards.
The first few suicides were on civilians, it was true. But later on, the Palestinians got wiser and focused on targets related to Israeli military personnel and installations.
Now there is a person to be quoting. When he gassed the kurds did ANY arabs counties come to their aid? Nope not one.
The Kurds were fighting for Iran and/or themselves when they were gassed. The Kurds were therefore considered enemies of Iraq. I think undue mileage has been obtained from this by the West in condemning Saddam Hussein.
Maybe underlying Arab solidarity (despite of show to the contrary) and partly fear of Iraq was responsible for the lack of support for the Kurds.
Yep and the war will rage on until either one side is dead or changes its way of thinking. Only all out war brings about lasting peace. Negotiations just prolong war.
How very true! Maybe folks like you should band together and throw out the current leadership and wage full scale war to solve the present crises in a jiffy. I have said several times on other SI threads, "Give me a hydrogen bomb and I can solve the Middle East conflict in an instant."
The last holy war fought between the Muslims and the west was called the crusades. Maybe its time for another one.
Funny you should say that. A crusade is going on right now. Bush at first said it was a crusade. But then his PR folks advised him to say otherwise. Bush did just that in the interest of winning popular support worldwide.
Despite any denials to the contrary, the West does indeed "fear" the Arabs. It is now common knowledge that nuclear bombs are not sine qua non for destruction of the enemy. Relatively inexpensive and insidious bio-weapons will be just as effective as well and then some (what with the mental anguish besides the physical suffering which would make the H-bomb a fast and relatively "comfy" deliverance to Heaven/Paradise/Nirvana? That's why Bush keeps saying the war must go on until it is won! But sad to say, the enemy remains elusive forcing timelines to be revised constantly. At first it was thought everyone would be home for Christmas but now Rumsfeld says the war is far from over. He keeps saying it again and again. |
