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Pastimes : THE SLIGHTLY MODERATED BOXING RING
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To: Lane3 who wrote (14241)6/6/2002 1:47:20 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) of 21057
 
You ended up agreeing that human
activity affects climate. I don't know why you are so grudging about acknowledging it now.

I'm not grudging in my acknowledgment that human activity effects climate. I'm grudging in my acknowledgment that it is beyond reasonable doubt that the effect is significant.

To my knowledge its never been the current administrations position that human activity has no effect on climate. Its opinion was more along the lines that Kyoto was a bad idea. I believe it was also Bush's position that the claim that significant human caused global warming is happening and will continue to happen, and will eventually be very harmful has not been substantiated.

People assume you mean more then the fact that there is some effect on climate from human activity because that's not really the issue. Most people would take it as established that human activity has some effect on climate. The people who deny global warming would simply say that the earth is not getting warmer, or if it is its a normal fluctuation of the type that occurs year to year or decade to decade throughout history.

I wouldn't go as far as that, I just say that there is a large amount of uncertainty in all these climate claims and that people who try to bring up this uncertainty are often bashed as being unreasonable or partisan or in the pockets of the oil companies.

Which is why I was so pleased with the Administration's report. Until Bush disavowed it, that is.


I don't really see the connection. Even without the report I don't think Bush or administration officials have ever said "human activity does not effect climate".

Tim
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