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Pastimes : A@P VOTE: Guilty or Innocent?

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To: Smiling Bob who wrote (534)6/22/2002 2:03:39 PM
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Beth Kwon
One of two women whom I know of that attended Amr's Texas sentencing.
Asianflower cites the US Constitution, yet is located in South Asia???
Writing styles similar
Just an observation.

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EIMS....First off
I am offended by your use of foul language on this thread, which is clearly in violation of the TOS. Apparently you have a different set of rules than the rest of us.

Secondly this is a public message board and people are entitled to post their opinions, views, comments, assessments, and predictions without the fear of harrassment and threats. It "appears to me" that you and Tony have both used a common tactic of threatening people with lawsuits, when they have an opinion different than yours or when they give an opinionated statement which is contradictory to your thinking. To me, that is one of the most flagrant violations of the terms of service, because it borders on stalking.

If I think you and Tony are both rotten criminals, that would be my opinion, and I am entitled to express my opinion. Afterall, there is a document called the United States Constitution, but I guess you and the rest of the enterprise have had your way for so long now, that you feel you can threaten anyone you like. My opinion of course!

Well, I guess there are at least one or two CEOs out their that were not going to take your BS any longer. They invested in the right people to gather sufficient evidence of wrong doing, that has resulted in people now going to jail! Anyway, that is how it appears to me.

A lawsuit is a very serious situation, it involvesdiscovery. Further the burden of proof in a libel case, puts the burden of proof on the plaintiff. Thus, it is difficult for a plaintiff to withstand fullfilling the elements of their case and proving that they are not what someone has claimed. But you already know that. As I understand you have already had to pay money to settle a lawsuit involving M.T. But I could be wrong. As I said, it was "my understanding".

My point is that idle threats will get you no where. People following the activities on this board have become immune to the vile threats and brow beatings. If something is posted that is not accurate, you and others have the right to post what you believe are the true circumstances, thus letting others draw their own conclusions as to the validity of postings.

JMHO

thestreet.com

When the Message Boards Turn Blue
By Beth Kwon
Staff Reporter
2/17/00 12:17 PM ET

It had the makings of a great made-for-TV movie: betrayal, a lawsuit and -- my favorite part -- mean postings on the Internet. No, I'm not talking about my latest breakup; I'm talking about my Web relationship with Anthony Elgindy.

When I got in touch in July with Elgindy, a short-seller and Silicon Investor regular known for his colorful posts, we got along great. But then I wrote a story about him that he didn't like, and he unleashed on me creative bursts of vitriol previously reserved for the stocks he shorts and the message board characters who disagree with him. And the message boards, reserved ostensibly for stock talk, became a sounding board for an Internet celebrity taking the democratization of the Web one more step.

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Silicon Investor Finding It's Relegated to Message-Board Back Seat

Last December, I wrote about federal fraud charges Elgindy faces relating to compensation checks he allegedly received from Bear Stearns and Barron Chase Securities while he was receiving disability benefits from MassMutual. The trial is set for March 6; Elgindy has said he'll fight the charges, which carry substantial fines and jail time. He has also been fined by the National Association of Securities Dealers and had his NASD registration revoked in 1998.

A few days after the story was posted, the barbs started coming. On Dec. 6, Elgindy, who goes by the handle Anthony@Pacific on Silicon Investor, wrote, "I will ... buy The houses around Beth Kwon, and then Ill ... start a landfill around her house."

It was an interesting thought, if highly illogical. Elgindy lives in San Diego and may not realize that the real estate surrounding my Manhattan apartment is prohibitively expensive at recent levels. Not to mention the hassle of getting a permit to set up a dump in Greenwich Village.

I started fantasizing about starting a no-new-landfills campaign. I would spread the word at community board meetings and get my high-profile neighbors involved. Richard Gere and Vogue Editor Anna Wintour both live on my block -- I'm not sure they would want to part with their houses just to satisfy a message board celebrity with a sharp tongue.

A couple of weeks later Elgindy called TheStreet.com a "turd nugget." Then Elgindy said that our co-founder Jim Cramer looked like a "thin-crust pizza" and that he's a "fat slob." Nice try, but if he tuned in to Fox News Channel at 10 a.m. and 6 p.m. Saturdays or at 10 a.m. Sundays (check local listings!), he'd see otherwise.

Silicon Investor Managing Director Bryan Burdick said he removed some of the posts that "went over the line." The posts about Cramer are gone, but what about the ones about me? I asked. Don't they violate Silicon Investor's "terms of use" guidelines, which say you have to be civil and not "abusive, threatening, improper or otherwise objectionable"? "When a member is criticizing a public figure it's not always so clear-cut," says Burdick.

I guess that makes me a public figure. Cool!

But Elgindy was just warming up. On Jan. 14, he wrote, "I wonder if that idiot BadBreath Kwon still has a job." Note that I've spoken to him only on the phone.

Elgindy topped himself in a post on Jan. 26, which read, "Beth might qualify to work at our local Hungarian Shmorgasborg eatery." Um, don't you mean Swedish? He continued, "But less mentally challenging jobs such as digging ditches, moving granite boulders, nugget mining/rolling or moving sprinklers around your yard are all good opportunities ... Beth may not be able to do the sprinkler stuff but she may, with a few months of training, figure it out."

I'm flattered that Elgindy assumes I have the upper-body strength to move around granite boulders (while I do try to go to the gym, I've never managed to change the water-cooler jug at the office by myself).

The latest attack came Wednesday. "I will ... fire Beth but not till she cleans the toilets in our boathouse," Elgindy wrote.

Sorry, I think I'll stick to lawn maintenance. After a few months of training, that is.
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