Re: " i find no point in discussing the history of free trade with someone who obviously has not spent much time studying it and acts like he knows the history while making it up as he goes along. on another thread a few months back you even admitted as much.
Craig, BULLS**T! The above is an out and out lie. I found in the history links posted, just as I suspected, full indication that Britians benefitted greatly from the repeal of the corn laws, and too, that they had SUFFERED under them.
That's the fact of it. Near as I can tell, you read it for yourself but fail to comprehend the simple truths stated.
Re: "i'm not going to waste my time arguing every little detail of history with you.
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That must be because the simple details busted your argument(they did, so you resort to "argument to the man").
Re: " one of these days you will come to learn that individualism is a liberal or libertarian principle, not a conservative one. until then i'm ready to just move on."
LOL...Craig...you...live...in...a...dream...world...and...don't...know...it.
The moment our Constitution became the law of the land(at which time we became a Republic respecting individual rights), Individual rights became a conservative(i.e. status quo) principle in this country. The association of individual rights with "conservative" principles is deeply ingrained in our culture and in Republican writings abundant and widespread(Demcrat writings too, in fact).
Re: "you fool libertarians just can't figure out that our society today is not responsible. just look at enron, global crossing, imclone, tyco, martha stewart, worldcom, xerox, etc. of course they are only the tip of the iceberg. just look what your laissez-faire, free trade, government withdrawal from the economy has gotten us.
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That might make sense IF we'd ever HAD in this country, an actual "laissez-faire, free trade, government withdrawal from the economy," in fact we haven't, not even close, Craig. You have a vivid imagination if you think so- if you think so, I swear, you must stand as a man alone in your belief. The kinds of financial reporting at the root of the problem companies you name above is the result of a morass of regulations and loopholes(none of which could exist outside of a highly governed business environment).
Re: "it's a shame that you radical libertarians are too ignorant to realize that so-called free trade leads to more control, not less!"
Free Trade(i.e. the lack of governmental interference with trading partners & prices), you say, leads to more control. I gather(of course), you believe allowing control(Tariffs, etc.), leads to less control. Craig, in your world, apparantly White is Black and Black is White. Devoid of common logic and an unwavering understanding of basic definitions, you are like talking to a brick wall.
Virtually everything you have said here is self-contradictory. I can scarcely believe you exist.
But,
Freedom Works.
Dan B. |
