What % of the world's followers of Islam do these represent & where are those who should be speaking for moderate Moslems(if any remain)?
WorldnetDaily
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Muslim leaders pledge
to 'transform West'
'If Islamic state rises, we will be its army'
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Posted: August 13, 2002
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Jon Dougherty
© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com
The West will never "reach the level of Islam," and Western society will be "transformed" through an "external or cultural invasion" by Islam, according to two Islamic leaders in Great Britain.
In recent interviews with the London-based daily Al-Hayat, Egyptian-born Sheik Abu Hamza, imam of the Finsbury Park Mosque and head of the Ansar Al-Shari'ah organization; and Syrian-born Sheik Omar Bakri, founder and leader of the Islamic Religious Court in London and head of the Al-Muhajiroun Islamist Organization, predicted Western civilization and law would eventually succumb to Islam.
The interviews, translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute, provide insights into how Islamic leaders attempt to use Western-style freedoms and laws to accomplish their goal of spreading the Islamic faith.
For example, Hamza, in his interview, said that although he lives in Britain, he does not consider himself a British citizen except "to the extent that I use my British documents to move around."
"I live here and I hold a passport," he said. "It is a superficial identity; real identity is in the heart and in the mind, and this is the [identity] that drives a man. This [identity] is Islam …"
Hamza also hinted that Islamic law would never tolerate certain types of behavior that are tolerated in the U.S. and elsewhere throughout the West.
"Every man can choose whether to be a human being or an ape," he said. "For example, if a man wears clothes he is respected; but if he takes them off, he should not be respected."
He also said, "an adulterer should not be respected," nor should "anyone who attacks little children" or "anyone who tries to turn himself into a half-man, half-woman …"
When asked how responsive the Islamic community in Britain is to a call to integrate into British society, Hamza said that could occur only in certain areas of life.
"If you mean that the Muslim integrates with the non-Muslim in matters that Islam does not prohibit, such as protecting the environment, defending human rights, and fighting corruption, usury and adultery, then yes, there can be such integration," he told the paper. "But if we take integration en masse, and we all integrate, the Muslim's daughter will come to him pregnant and he will say, 'Never mind, I'm integrated.' His wife will throw him out of the house and he'll sleep in his car, and she'll bring her lover home …"
For his part, Bakri said "in my method of education" he was flatly "opposed to the idea of integration."
"We do not believe that it is permitted to integrate(cont)
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