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To: tejek who wrote (149833)	8/16/2002 3:21:31 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) of 1579714

Tim, I don't know. You all are making up the rules as you go along. Not really just applying judgement The WMD issue makes it serious enough to warrent drastic action. The inital invasion provides the justification for being involved and trying to enfroce the cease fire agreement, and the repeated violations of the agreement provide the "legal" justification. Saddam invaded Kuwait but it wasn't appropriate to get him then but it is now. It would not have been wrong then, but we were looking for a way to avoid it. Saddam may have made avoiding it imposible. He's developing WMD's.......no proof but Rice knows There is a massive amount of proof that he was devloping WMD, and there is evidence of continued attempts. He's violated a UN administrated ceasefire but its our responsibility to enfore it and if need be, take Saddam out even if the UN objects. The UN was the figleaf on the war. The ceasefire agreement was negotiated by and has been enforced by Americans, and to a lesser extent by a few of our allies. The UN has no more right to decide what happens there then any of its member states. The member states are soverign nations. The UN is only a bit more then a debateing society. POWs are imprisoned in a Guatamo Bay camp where the conditions are reported to be squalid and we are not permitted any news. Conditions aren't squalid and news has come out of gitmo. The conditions there are a lot better then what they had in Afghanistan either after they where captured or before when they where in caves being bombarded by B-52s. They get fed well and are given opportunities to worship, there have been no substantiated reports of abuse and few unsubstantiated reports. Do they live a life of luxury? No but few prisoners do. The security is very tight, but would you lossen it on Al-Qaida prisoners? People are accused of acts of terrorism, taken off the streets and never heard from again. The Americans don't disappear, there was I think only 3 of them and there names where all over the newspapers and news shows. They do have legal representation available to them and issues involving their cases are being handled by the US court system. Non Americans are not treated with quite so well but this is actually nothing new. They are subject to deportation with far less evidence and if they where here illegally there doesn't have to be any evidence of other crimes. And if there is not place to deport them to they sit and rot in jail. That's the way it has been for a long time. Probably not a good thing but it isn't something that started with Bush. We have a gov't that initiates wars like most people take buses. That is simply not true, and I don't just meant if you interpret your comment literally. There have been no recent wars that the US has been involved in where we where not attacked first or responding to an attack on someone else, or trying to prevent a humanitarian disaster, except for Panama and arguably Grenada and they had some justification and in any case are long enough ago that you can't reasonably use them to claim the US starts wars like other people take busses. Tim

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