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To: Bill who wrote (19713)8/24/2002 11:20:16 PM
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He's here to snipe away with his pet issues

He and who else, Bill?

And often he makes things up as he goes along... Many of his posts contain "information" which turns out not to have been true

Check out this quite typical post of yours. It's on the subject of the death penalty:

Since when? The liberal position has always been that it is better to let a killer back on the street to kill again than to allow the state the power to extinguish him. Victims be damned.
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You know that's untrue. It is mere sniping, and is irresponsible.

I challenge you to find a single post of any anti-dp poster on SI taking that position. I challenge you to find any anti-dp advocate anyplace on the planet taking that position. I've posted thousands of words on the subject, and read many books on the subject, and I have neither said such a bizarre thing nor read any author or commentator on the subject whose position is what you claim has "always" been the "liberal" position.

Many liberals and conservatives of decency and conscience oppose the state killing its citizens given the lack of statistical evidence that it deters crime; the draining of funds that could be used to demonstrably deter crime; the disgust with which it is perceived (and therefore our system is perceived) by most of the civilized world; the refusal of many countries to extradite defendants to ours; the dramatic racial bias, gender bias, age bias, educational level bias and economic class bias with which it is applied; and the chance of killing innocents -- but the alternative proposed to capital punishment for heinous crimes has never been what you claim, and always been, in all my reading on the subject and all my arguing on the subject, "Life without the possibility of parole."

Sincerely, I am repelled by that post of yours. I think it is deceitful, twisted, unresponsive to the many points made here on the topic by those who sincerely differ with you.

IMO its claim that those who oppose state executions at this time are saying "victims be damned" is irresponsible and libelous and vile. What's more, it's personally insulting to me, since I'm the person on SI who has argued against the dp more than any other. I think it is as much "sniping" as anything TP posts, and it surely doesn't qualify as "debate." It is merely a knowing distortion of the arguments of those with whom you disagree, whom you inaccurately choose to call "liberals" -- I have known many Republicans who are against the death penalty -- a distortion made for effect.

A motivation I suspect is very similar indeed to TP's.

But I don't think you should be banned. I think you should be answered. That's the American way.

So I answered you.
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