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Politics : Stockman Scott's Political Debate Porch

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To: Jim Willie CB who wrote (5332)8/28/2002 6:33:05 PM
From: yard_man  Read Replies (1) of 89467
 
thought this was interesting --

powerball.net

using renewables to convert NaOH into NaH -- but I am not a chemist. Supposedly NaH woould be easy to split -- but then what do you have left. Hopefully not elemental Na ...

Apparently just for the distribution part of the problem.

Here's something for the production

sciencedaily.com

It seems all I am reading has one thing in common -- everything is not even at the proof-of-principle stage.

The above article alludes to electrolysis being inefficient. If you look at the total process -- hydrogen production and then the fuel cell -- well ... I think folks are fooling themselves by talking about efficiency of one step, namely the production of electricity from the combining the hydrogen with oxygen.

Another one that alludes to the seabed hydrates

pacific.bizjournals.com

Would love to see something that tells how dense this stuff is on the sea floor and how it might be extracted.

in this same article -- there is what I consider to be a REAL niche for fuel cells -- look at the justification -- insufficient traditional "infrastructure"

>>The state Legislature this year appropriated $200,000 for hydrogen research. The bill was signed into law last week by Lt. Gov. Mazie Hirono. That money is separate from the defense research being undertaken by the university and IFC, a Connecticut-based subsidiary of United Technologies Inc. and one of the world's leaders in fuel cell development and research.

Also, the National Tropical Botanical Garden on Maui is expected to award a contract within the next month to build a visitor center that will be powered by fuel cells.

Fuel cells are more cost-effective to meet power demands for the Hana facility, since it would cost between $200,000 and $400,000 to extend the existing power grid to the area, says Michael Veith, former botanical gardens president who now owns H2 Energy Systems LLC.

Veith says the system to be installed in Hana should cost less than $150,000. It will be able to produce five kilowatts of electricity during peak hours and, if there is excess power made during the day, it can be stored for times when there is above average demand, or on days when there is no sun to produce more hydrogen.

"The power that will be produced is comparable to a residential-sized home's power needs," Veith says.
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Maybe it is a problem for the biotech field??

sbcsc.k12.in.us
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