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To: craig crawford who wrote (147447)9/16/2002 10:28:22 AM
From: Wizard  Read Replies (1) of 164684
 
>>who is going to enforce the security council resolutions israel has thumbed its nose at? or does the UN only need to become relevant for everyone except the west and israel? are you aware that israel has flagrantly disregarded more resolutions than iraq?

The security councils members need to enforce all resolutions and they are not. That is the point. The US has tried to lead a resolution for the Israel/Palestine situation and has failed so far. We should try again.

Israel is a much trickier situation than Iraq though. The key problem there is that there is no credible leadership for Palestine. At some point, divide the lines and kick Israel out. But how in the world is Palestine going to create an infrastructure and productive society with Arafat leading the way? No way, no how. I am all for kicking Israel out of the occupied areas (as is the US) but that is a tough one. Iraq is a much more straightforward issue. For all of Israel's issues, at least they are a democracy. At least they have a productive economy and have a free society. Palestine can be so too but it critically needs leadership other than Hamas. Suicide bombing has never worked as a political answer and it won't work for Palestine. Suicide bombing is one of many issues that is keeping the US from being more proactive in the conflict.

Israel is one of the few countries in the Middle East that is actually productive and not propped up by having huge oil reserves as a substitute for a productive population. We can kick Israel out today but what does that solve? It would encourage suicide bombing as an answer and leave a country with no leadership. The UN resolution violations by Iraq are threatening to the US and modern society as a whole. The Israel/Palestine is extremely important too but it is not nearly as straightforward a situation. Why don't you see Russia or China or Britain or France lead the charge for the Palestinians? The US is damned if you do and damned if you don't. Rwanda? Kuwait? Somalia? Kosovo?

>>or does the UN only need to become relevant for everyone except the west and israel?

The UN is run by its members. It is relevant when its members make it so. The US isn't going to participate in a UN that doesn't represent western interests. In that way, it is irrelevant when it comes to the West. These are today's laws of international order. When somebody else is the superpower, they can call for ethnic cleansing and religious intolerance and whatever else that leader wants to have as its core values but in our lifetimes, the UN will always be biased to western interests.
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