"Poor Frederick" Reporting In.....
Hello All:
I have been computerless since ONE (1) day BEFORE the infamous "September 7 Nashville Super Speedway Back To the Future 1981 Delorean Tilley Test."
I have had numerous conversations with Carl Tilley and his wife before and after the test. Sterling Allen - www.greaterthings.com - contacted me 2 days prior to the test and we worked together with several folks to try as best as we could to document the event on the internet. You can go to www.greaterthings.com site and click on the link for more information as well as a local Chicago number you can dial for updates going forward.
I was gone most of last week in California with my family. We took advantage of the 9/11 terrorist airfares and had a delightful time in Long Beach and Anaheim - 9 hours in Disneyland on Saturday.
I believe Tilley does indeed have the real goods, but everything coming out of his group seems to be SHOUTING "GO AWAY!!!".
Like life itselt, I personally don't believe you can "sell" something that's inherently "FREE." Hence the problem of these "old world" control fantasies-illusions rubbing against the spiritual reality of this "new world" of freedom, light, energy, truth and love that will continue to bubble up in all of it's great magnificence despite the attempt by BUSH to burn more bushes and scare more people.
As my late grandfather from Montana use to say to me every morning "IT'S GREAT TO BE ALIVE!!."
Now I'm going to read through all these posts and hopefully I will learn more!!
"Poor Frederick" is alive and well!
And do give a round of celebration to our third son, Andrew Wolfe Smart, who turns ONE (1) year old 23 "I Am" minutes from right now @ 6:40 AM.
Peace and God Bless!!
119293!!
Here's a recent email shared by Sterling Allen...
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Subj: [Tilley_Fans] Jerry Decker -- Wealth of Comment on Tilley Stuff
Date: 9/20/02 12:40:53 AM Central Daylight Time
From: sterlingda@greaterthings.com
Reply-to: Tilley_Fans@yahoogroups.com
To: Tilley_fans@yahoogroups.com
CC: jdecker@keelynet.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)
After receiving the following from Stephan, I realized the Jerry Decker has
a wealth of comment on Tilley Technology, so I created a page to feature it.
greaterthings.com
I need to go to bed now, but later I plan to delete out non-related posts.
The following is a great sample.
Thanks for the tip, Stefan.
Sterling
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Hartmann" <harti@harti.com>
To: "Sterling D. Allan" <sterlingda@greaterthings.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 12:21 PM
Subject: News from Jerry Decker !
For your info !
Gruß, Harti.
Best regards, Harti.
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Dipl. Ing. Stefan Hartmann, Hartmann Multimedia Service
Keplerstr. 11 B, 10589 Berlin, Germany
Tel: 030-34500497 FAX: 030-34500498
email: harti@harti.com www.harti.com www.overunity.com www.ruhleben.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Decker" <jdecker@keelynet.com>
To: <interact@keelynet.com>; "Bill Beaty" <jdecker@keelynet.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 11:41 AM
Subject: [Keelynet] Tilley - possible solution? - please correct my errors
or assumptions
> Hi Folks!
>
> No hints, no clues, just the links and numbers based on my late night
> Texican research, with the idea he is using some kind of off-the-shelf
> magnetic generator system or one he designed....it looks like its off
> the shelf...
>
> In case you've not been keeping up....on Sept. 7th, a fellow named Carl
> Tilley and his group at;
>
> tilleyfoundation.com
>
> claimed to have a modified DeLorean with an electric motor and a
> self-charging battery system which would allow the car to run for very
> long distances without needed to be recharged.
>
> As you know, the big car companies are dropping electric cars primarily
> because of the limited range (100-150 or so) between charges, so this
> would be like a Kitty Hawk demonstration if it worked. Unfortunately, a
> mechanical failure occurred which resulted in the demonstration being
> cancelled.
>
> However, Mr. Tilley and his associates kindly invited a small group of
> us to his workshop and allowed us to take photographs, video and to
> interview them with any questions we might have. This resulted in a
> flurry of posts on the internet and at the discussion list below, but to
> date, we simply don't KNOW what the secret is.
>
> In my further attempts to beat this and the other March magnetic
> impeller thread to death...<g>....I found this which has some good pics
> of the neodymium impeller;
>
> mackpump.com
>
> Rare Earth Magnets - High strength neodymium iron, provide high torque
> and hard-start capability without slip. Drive is synchronous.
> -------------------------
> which led to a source of neo magnets;
>
> camartech.com.au
>
> 8. MAGNETS - MINI- EXTRA STRONG
>
> Neodymium Disk Magnets carry the greatest pulling force of all permanent
> magnets. *Please be careful of fingers, they are x-strong.
>
> 28MAESS Unit: ea $16.73 + $1.67(GST) = $18.40
> --------------------------
> which on further 'dithering' led to this;
>
> Remember Tilley told us he used to install wind and solar power
> systems!!
>
> I found this WONDERFUL PAGE on wind generator neodymium alternators and
> generators which I think will trip your trigger;
>
> permanent magnet alternators up to 12 volt 150amps (1800 watts) out;
>
> hydrogenappliances.com
>
> check out the power curves but be aware they aren't under load for
> voltage;
>
> hydrogenappliances.com
>
> one curve shows 102 amps at 4,000 rpm at 25 volts which comes to 2,550
> watts....how many watts does Tilleys DC motor pull????????
> ------------------------
> and finally THIS;
>
> But the KILLER is this remarkable neodymium driven $800 generator which
> produces 35 amps at 1 revolution per second, the power curve shows
> 750rpm will produce about 12 volts at 216 amps for approximately 2600
> watts;
>
> hydrogenappliances.com
>
> #PMG226 only $795.95 plus $45.00 S&H
> Weighs 22 lbs. / Dimensions - 8"X 9"X 9"
> Keyed shaft is 7/8" by 2.75" long
>
> which would easily fit inside his mystery box.....
> ------------------------
> Now for the fun part, my video and photos show he uses a Dayton 1F800 DC
> motor which you can see with the identical speed controller attached at;
>
> electricmotorwarehouse.com
>
> 1F800 / 1/2hp / 1725RPM / 56C / 115 input volts / 90 volts / 5.40 amps
> / 21# / $472.39
>
> So we have 90vdc X 5.40amps = 486 watts
>
> Note the rpm max is 1725, compare this RPM rating to the power curve for
> the neodymium Manta generator above and it shows only 750 rpm is
> necessary to produce 2600 watts!
>
> So if you divide 2600 / 486 you get roughly 5.3....<g>...Tilley claims a
> COP of 3:1 and the motor did NOT appear to be running at its full rated
> speed 1725, so he could easily adjust it to anything he wanted less than
> the 5.3 and still keep the generator charging the batteries.
>
> Am I missing something here???? I'm thinking its a no load chart versus
> full load however, the site specifically says;
>
> "Short out the power leads of the #PMG226 with an amp meter in line and
> try to turn the shaft by hand. While under a full load the shaft seems
> almost seized but during your fatiguing attempt to turn the shaft you
> will have produced well over a 35 amp reading on the amp meter!!!!!! You
> say 35 amps just by turning the hub by hand??????? YES!!!"
> ------------------------
> and the webpage above RECOMMENDS Trace controllers which is what Tilley
> uses....
>
> Although we did not have the opportunity or invitation to test the
> building power supply or the car power supply, the proof would be for
> others to use a similar setup as described above to verify Tilleys
> claims independently.
>
> At this point, I would like to believe the car uses a similar system
> however, the building power supply appeared to use several 12 volt
> batteries IN PARALLEL, meaning a 12 volt system.....
>
> WHEREAS, the car uses 12 - 12vdc batteries IN SERIES ranging from 144vdc
> to 154vdc though he DOES USE A DC TO DC CONVERTER which I will report on
> when I get my Tilley page up to see if he is downconverting it to
> 12vdc....strange if so since it would be inefficient...my point being he
> could well use this Manta generator requiring only about 750 rpms to
> produce 2600 watts...
>
> I stand completely ready to be corrected and would appreciate your
> comments as I do often make mistakes...<g>...thanks!
>
> I will post all this and more to the Tilley page when I get it all put
> together....
>
>
> --
> Jerry W. Decker - keelynet.com
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