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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
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To: Sir Francis Drake who wrote (47724)9/28/2002 2:12:45 PM
From: aladin  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
SFD,

I agree with your main thesis that we cannot justify Israeli crimes by referencing Arab or even Palestinian crimes.

Crime IS crime.

However, on your other significant point about the occupation being ILLEGAL. Lets start defining the statutes and the referenced legal authority.

Palestine was never a state with recognized borders, so its not Palestinian. Jordon and Egypt renounce their portions, so you must be talking about the Golan Heights. There are no Palestinians living there. Thats a specific Israeli-Syrian issue and has not been a party to the more general crisis in Israel/Palestine/Trans-Jordon.

In fact recognizing the right to Palestinian self-determination, previous Israeli governments had sought a peace for land deal that involved giving up most of the 1967 booty. The track record for Israel was good - they gave up the Sinai to Egypt.

The crime that I have seen is Israeli govt's caving in to their religious fanatics (the Torah says we get all the west bank crowd) and allowing the settlements.

Or are you part of the crowd that sees us moving back to the 1948 borders? or pre-1948?

Lets all disclose our positions. Hawk included.

My own position is close to Oslo and calls for a negotiated settlement close to the pre-1967 war borders (allowing some movement for security purposes).

What would really help is if both Israel and the Palestinians outlawed religious based parties. Fundementalists cannot negotiate in good faith (no pun intended).

John
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