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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank

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To: Neocon who wrote (60495)10/1/2002 4:04:46 PM
From: The Philosopher  Read Replies (1) of 82486
 
Well, no, I, at least, didn't get the point of view you were pushing until now, since this is really the first time you have articulated quite this clearly.

But ...

"Since values are pre- given, ..."

Huh? Since? Since when? Values are pre-given by what, or by whom? You can't use the passive tense at at time like this.

Please recast as "Since [fill in the blank] pre-gives values to humans..."

"...and necessary to internalize in order to get started as a moral being,..."

So a person can't even get started to be a moral being until they have internalized the values which are pre-given by something. Right? Just want to be clear about the tenents of moral empiricism.

"... the idea that we create
our own values is just wrong..."

So who or what DOES create our own values?

Society?

But what is society but us? How can society create anything? Only individuals can create anything. They may share them and work together to refine them, but each value must initially come from one person starting out saying something, just as the journey of a thousand miles . . ..
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