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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group
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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (48506)10/1/2002 8:01:08 PM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (2) of 281500
 
Hi Hawkmoon; Your comparison (between US / British actions during WW2 with Israeli / British actions against the PLO / IRA) is silly because in the first case, you have a war, and in the second case, you have only a disturbance of the peace. To put this into perspective, simply count up the casualties, on a per-capita or total basis either way, for the wars you're comparing. You're looking at apples and oranges.

There are different levels of violence in international relations. In "full scale war" everything goes. In "limited conflict", like the Vietnam or Korean wars, the participants play the game under some set of limiting rules. If the guys get too much out of hand, the situation progresses to "full scale war".

But the Irish and Israeli problems are not even "limited war". Instead, they are merely disturbances of the peace, and are only a few stages over "riot".

The things which countries can get away with (in terms of international sanctions and all that) during wartime are not identical to the things that they can get away with during limited war or during "disturbances of the peace".

But none of this really matters. The fact is that the Israelis have been unable to prevent the Palestinians from disturbing the peace. Call it whatever you like. Moan about the unfairness of it all as much as you have to. The fact is that the Israelis have failed.

-- Carl
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