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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices

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To: Joe NYC who wrote (152781)10/2/2002 6:23:55 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) of 1586562
 
that's where we diverge.

I think there is more to it that diverging. I would call it complete lack of understanding.


Joe, you keep saying that but I don't agree. And I don't think I am naive. I believe our leaders have sold us a bill of goods and at least half of the military actions and defense expenditures of the 20th century could have been avoided.

We may disagree but I don't believe its a lack of understanding on my part.

You think we starved Russia into submission; I contend the system was so corrupt it imploded upon itself.

I doubt there was any notable starvation in Soviet Block, at it's height. I am a bit curious about what you mean by the corruption of the system. Can you explain, and maybe contrast the pre-89 years with the post communist era in the iron curtain countries?


When I say starved, I didn't mean literally. In the past ten years, the argument has been made that US pressure caused the Soviets to put all their money into defense and not concern itself with domestic production and the efficient running of the country.

That may have been a factor but in the post soviet era, we have learned of numerous financial abuses as the siphoning off wealth to Communist party leaders who maintianed expensive dashas and large bank accounts in Switzerland. As a consequence, the workers were paid slave wages and factory equipment became old and inefficient. Other abuses were the payment of kick backs all along the system. Huge sums of money were diverted to the space program in order to maintain Soviet prestige in the world. I consider these kinds of abuses as examples of corruption.

I can think of number of problems of the socialist / communist economic / political system, but I don't see corruption as the #1 problem.

It may not have been number one but from all I've read, it was major.

ted
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