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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: Noel de Leon who wrote (49982)10/7/2002 7:53:54 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
Ok, according to you the settlements have not been expanded under every Israeli government since 1967. Not so.

No, you said that Israel had expanded the "occupied territories" -- that's land, not towns. As for settlements, they didn't really get started until the late seventies, so you're not exactly accurate there either.

The point is that they perceived that they were in danger and as such, de facto, were expelled.

No, they perceived they were in danger and they ran. 'Ran' is different from 'expelled'. Two thirds left without seeing a single Jewish soldier. There was a panic. Certainly very rough luck on them, even worse luck than the on the equivalent number of Jews who left or were expelled from their ancestral communities in the Arab lands, communities which predated the Arab conquest. For the Jews were welcomed and resettled by their brethren, while the Arabs were stuck in fetid camps to be political pawns by theirs. I know of few other such refugees in the twentieth century who got to go back to their homes, and none where there was no peace settlement. If you were the Israelis, would you have let the Arab refugees return while they and every Arab government were promising to destroy you the next time?

There are sufficient documents about Israeli harassment of UN personnel on the net

Yeah, I'm sure electonicintifada has tons of stuff. There are plenty of real news stories about the UN's volunteering to be human shields for Hizbullah too. Then there was the time last year when UN troops help Hizbullah disguise themselves as US peacekeepers and kidnap and kill three Israeli soldiers. Rumor has it that the peacekeepers (Indians, as it happened) took hefty bribes.

do note that you have not commented the assassination of the first UN mediator and his aid.

Yes, it was in 1948. There are about 6 real instances of Jewish terrorism, which we hear about continually as a balance against 60,000 Arab instances of terrorism.

No, not 1967, but now in the occupied territories and in the rejected Barak peace plan.

Then I don't get what you're talking about.
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