223 Off Topics (and) grade & highschool talking "Big" . (First) Message from E. Charters .223 is standard military calibre of US army M16 and now nato weapons as well. It is fairly easy to get in sporting rifles as well.[end.] . My 13 months tour in Vietnam i will estimate was a total of 12 months in the bush ( 68 jan-aug rice patties, sept-jan mountains dmz/Laos) with each night rotation standing watch about average 6 hours sleep per night for 3 man "hole" (dust to dawn time frame) so, 24 - 6 is about 18 hours every day, 7 days a week, that my hand's fingers were wrapped around my M16. A few years ago at a local gun store they had a special M16, a sniper version with "big fat barrel" that to me had weight double the version i had, and i knew holding it 18 hours a day would be a pain, but then i remembered in boot camp, unlike todays, the rifle we were issued was the WWII M? that had a wood stock and i forget now how it was loaded. I think that was the one i qualified with at rifle range at bott camps last week, not the M16. Actually i don't think i obtained an M16 until my tour started, but lbs might know the year time frame better than me. Seems that during peace time the troops gets lots of stateside training, which is nice to enter a war zone with, but then it was boot camp and a week to go home, then back for a few weeks quick training on a specific weapon, then without any stateside practice its off to war. - on the job training -, it was But anyway, how those troops in WWI & WWII were able to carry all day a very heavy rifle v. a light weight "plastic toy" M16 amazes me. I'll bet todays regular M16 with attachments is double what i had, and the sniper version a times three. The guys trained on motors and machine gun ofcourse had huge amounts of weight to travel with, but they didn't walk with us 90% of the time, but were transported via chopper or tank or wheels. . grade & highschool talking "Big" . No need to get angry at those who think you make bad jokes, as you pointed out, they don't know the total picture and only see a view looking with a U-Turn around their confusion. . As i stated many times, for a person to be confused is a terrible thing, and most folks take extreme measures in the opposite way, rather than confront it and understand they will take them stands all to well expressed on this thread with a "Fence Test" posture, and simply an extremely focused attitude that labels anyone who does not express TOTAL 100% outrage at "them" or "it" as being on the "other side" aka the enemy. Also, Like in school, the guys who bragged the most got the least. Talked the biggest, had the smallest. |