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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: bela_ghoulashi who wrote (53274)10/19/2002 9:14:30 PM
From: Eashoa' M'sheekha  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
Since You Place International Community In Quotes.....

Right of the bat, I can only assume you have disdain from the outset with addressing same, much like your fearless leader's approach.But let's continue.......

>>is going to have to decide for itself whether the ongoing war on terror is worth fighting in its own right. Personally, I don't think the United States is going to lack for support on that score, regardless of what or what not happen re Iraq.So that's the line I don't buy.<<

Is not the line I was trying to sell, nor any other line for that matter.The US has had support from day one since 911,lots of support,regardless of how much disrespect your boy chooses to flaunt to his right wing cheerleaders and chickenhawks.It's a communal thing I guess and respect for what the US has done in the past,regardless of their concern about the current attitude of " the boss ", as he likes to be known with a big smirk on.<GG>

But it is a very undiplomatic approach that can introduce animosity into the equation unnecessarily .It has been written about quite extensively outside of the US, and simple odds tell us one can't be right and everyone else wrong, not usually anyway.

>>What constitutes a "measured response" is pretty much in the eye of the beholder<<

Well I wouldn’t consider the Chenny - Condi - Rummy tri-axis of war drums rhetoric during the summer anything that measures up to normal.Not in the eye of the beholders they were eventually bood off the stage by.That would be the majority of American people themselves,BTW.

>>and is often a function of what they themselves may stand to lose or gain.<<

I have little doubt all took potential losses and gains into account,GWB included.It would silly for them not to.But to insinuate it is the driving force in decision making may be mercenary thinking at best, and may boarder on further disrespect for their good will and intentions.

>>It seems disingenuous to me to suggest the United States will lose credibility by demonstrating its willingness to act and gain credibility by demonstrating its willingness not to act. That's wishful thinking in my view. Let the United Nations continue to demonstrate how effective that approach is.<<

The UN and its members are doing exactly that, regardless, with unprecedented open debate by all member nations,but I don't know where you are going with this " wishful thinking " line of reasoning BBM.

Are you suggesting they or I am wishing for a loss of credibility ?I hope not, because my observations are just that, observations, and if anything, I want just the opposite, which is why I took an alternate position from the outset.I didn't and still don't think the approach was the right one, regardless of the outcome and where we find ourselves today.

Don't you find it odd that the idiots in Iraq are claiming a political coup and suggesting the World has turned against the US? No matter how stupid that analysis is, they should never have had the opportunity to even suggest it.

But just today on the Korean front :

Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly, speaking after meetings with Chinese and South Korean officials, said Washington will lead a global campaign to bring "maximum international pressure on North Korea to abandon its nuclear weapons ambition."

newsday.com

There’s that “ global campaign “ thing all af a sudden.Yes, they have shifted their policy to “ leading a global campaign “ from “ get off yer arses ya lazy varvents “. Nice.

And again today :

US Offers Iraq Compromise
12:54 pm PST, 19 October 2002

Washington has bowed to world opinion and offered a compromise Security Council resolution on Iraq.


7am.com

KOOL!I’d like to buy the world a coke. HA!

But you do tend take a number of ideas and concepts I post well out of intent and force me to type more than I would normally to get those across.

Thanks....I need the practice.....NOT! heh heh heh

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