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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group

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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (53950)10/22/2002 1:42:57 PM
From: Sir Francis Drake  Read Replies (1) of 281500
 
It is quite another to claim as SFD does, that there were "good effects" on the Lebanese border from Israel's returning its "stolen" land -- while ignoring the existence of Hizbullah

Yes, there were good effects. After withdrawal, there were fewer dead Israelis than before as a direct result of hte Lebanon-Israeli conflict. I think fewer dead Israelis is a good thing - don't know about you. Of course, not all Israelis think so - some think killing Rabin was a good thing, so fewer dead Israelis is not always seen as good by all it seems.

As to "ignoring" Hizbollah. First of all, I did not ignore it - I pointed out, how Hizbollah was the result of insane Israeli policies, an Israeli creation as it were. Israel turned the local Lebanese population of allies to ENEMIES by creating a crazy "security zone" (INsecurity zone, really) - from that Hizbollah was the next step supported subsequently by Syria, Iran etc. But Israel prepared the ground, which they then exploited. Good job, Israel - quite in keeping with their traditions of creating seas of hatred, and quite the "smart" policy in power for many years of the Israelis supporting Hamas and the Islamicists in hope of destroying the PA. Well, they succeeded again. As they did with the Hizbollah. Congratulations! Second, my point was that there were GOOD effects of the Lebanese withdrawal for Israel - and so there were, like in fewer dead Israelis, Hizbollah or no Hizbollah - so what is all the talk about Hizbollah? Did the Hizbollah kill more Israelis before or after the withdrawal? Case closed!

Now we see where the "Goebbels" comparison is more apt - the Debka-style disinformation and ad hominem arguments, or my arguments based on evidence.
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