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To: JohnM who wrote (60377)	12/8/2002 9:49:05 AM
From: Noel de Leon	Read Replies (1) of 281500

I have now gotten through some of Bernard Lewis's book on the clash of western civilization with the Islamic civilization. Question: do you believe that there is an Islamic civilization? There was a Greek ditto, an Egyptian, a Babylonian, etc. but they don't exist any more. My take is that the Islamic civilization, very weakened in 1492, ceased to exist as a civilization in the 1600's. What's left is a religion and customs(and these are not the same throughout the Islamic world) but not a civilization as such. Lewis's position on the clash of religions is, I think, correct because of the on the one side(among other things) Allah and on the other the 3 fold nature of the Christian God. But to extend that to a clash of civilizations is a stretch. Mostly because I feel that the western civilization encompasses far more than the Judaeo/Christian ethic. Not the least of which is the separation of the religious from the secular. Therefore my very strong feeling that giving Al-Qaeda any legitimization is counter-productive. Thanks for the author references, will try get their work soon.

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