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To: tejek who wrote (156155)	12/15/2002 4:06:40 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) of 1578612

Hitler didn't start off talking about hate and discrimination. Hitler did start out with anti-semetic statements. He might not have campaigned on a slogan of "vote for me and I'll set up death camps". But he did speak hatred from the begining of his political carreer. However, at no time during the Third Reich was there public acknowledgement of genocide and concentration camps. Irrelevant. There was genocide and concentration camps, and they didn't exist contrary to Hitler's wishes. They where part of Hitler's ideas and policies. Bush doesn't and hasn't supported a lesser degree of anything like that. However, where he is similar is that he acts as the aggressor. Its not even vaguely similar. Bush is responding to a potential danger and to a violation of a cease fire agreement. Hitler planned and executed a war of conquest. You can make an argument that Bush is wrong but it isn't anything like Hitler. Not at all. I said most people place Republicans as "moderate right" and Hitler as "extreme right". Now you are mincing words. In past posts, you denied Hitler was from the right at all. Read what I post please. I said "most people" place hitler on the right. I didn't say that I do. But I never said I really wouldn't either. What I have said is that he was not conservative, and he did not resemble a more extreme version of Bush, or Republicans or American conservatives. The terms "conservative" and "the right", mean a lot of different things. You can call Bush part of "the right" and you can call Hitler part of "the right" but only if you use different definitions of "the right". You consider Stalin on the left because communism is considered a leftist theory. But in Russia they did not practice the communism of theory, and Stalin was simply an old fashioned dictator with a right wing bent. Communsm as Marz and others though about it was considered on the left. Communsim as it was practiced by the Soviets and the Chinese communists is also considered leftist and there is good reason to think this way. The Soviets nationalized industries and otherwise promoted socialist ideas. Trent Lott is looking more and more to be a full blow racist.....not thirty years ago but now. That is a big exageration. He made a careless comment, and he might even have some racist ideas (but even that is unceratin) but "a full blown racist"? Please. And even if he is that doesn't meen Bush is or Republican's in general are. I can point to racist democrats does that mean that Clinton and Gore are more moderate versions of Hitler? Nonsense. How do I know that Lott is not the norm Becaue all the evidence points the other way. that Bush currently is bent on securing his power with the intent of implementing the 'real' beliefs of the Rep. party once he feels he can. A paranoid fantasy. And then you tell me Conservatives are not fighting for a little bit of racial hatred? How do I know you are telling the truth? How do I know that you and Bush are talking equality when in reality that's a cover for your true feelings? Are you accusing Republicans of being racist or not. If your not then you have no point. If you are be straight forward about it and go ahead and make the accusation. Most of the comparisons are coming from well educated people in the know who are worried. Most of the comparisons are comming from very partisan people, many of whoom have a record of making unsupported attacks like these against Republicans. It doesn't matter who started the fear. What bothers me is that Bush is to some degree capitalizing on it. What is he doing wrong. Please be specific. Some people have supported him because of fear of terrorists. OK that means they think he is better able to deal with the terrorists. Should Bush say "No don't vote for me."? Bush has been claiming all along to have evidence of Saddam's WMD. The evidence of Saddam's WMD program is not secret, there has been tons of evidence and it has been widly available for years. Tim

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