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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH

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To: Andy Thomas who wrote (329136)12/16/2002 5:44:22 PM
From: Johannes Pilch  Read Replies (1) of 769668
 
you can't discount reincarnation with 100% certainty... that's why they call what you have, 'faith.'

False. The reason why "they" call it faith is because they don't know any better. Faith ain just guesswork. It's knowing of a certainty of what you do not see in nature.

more than anything, 'hell' is really an 'emptiness' whilst 'heaven' is a 'fullness'... different strokes for different folks...

Yeah. That is exactly right. Hell is an emptiness, the ultimate emptiness. Heaven is fullness, the ultimate in fullness. And there will be these two different strokes for different fokes.

i don't know for sure but i suspect that some christians 'get off' on the thought of those who argue with them during this life suffering eternal burning...

Can't really speak for "some" Christians. I sho don't be wantin' nobody to stay deader than dead. Life is where it's at.

well, i for one don't like jesus, or any king - of the universe or whatever - for that matter...

Fine. Stay dead then... I dang sho ain' trinta convince you of nothing. I'm just telling you the way it is. If you one of us, you are gonna accept the troof. If you ain't, you won't.

i can accept that nothing but flames await me forever... and i'm sure that tickles the likes of you and prolife, et al...

Maaan I ain' tickled by this mess.

it seems odd to me though that this omnipotent fellow gives a rat's ass about anyone or what they think or do for that matter...

Don't seem odd to me at all. God made a world and we're part of His world. He is about to clean it up. Those of us who He finds alive, like Him, He will keep. The rest will be sent to The Pit. Nothin' weird there at all.

and the new testament looks more like a vehicle for social control than anything else...

Of course it looks like that to you. But no dang body forcin' you to do nothin'. You don't wanna be controlled? Then DANG! Don't be.

indeed... it seems odd that someone can be punished eternally for a life they lived without ever having really seen or known the facts of the universe...

Dang man. The problem is, you wanna claim ignorance of the dang universe as protection from punishment, but you then turn right around and hate Jesus, as if you know enough about the dang universe to do so. Dass danged whacked maan. You lying to yaself - and you just oughta stop dat pathetic mess. I mean dang! If ya gonna lie, lie to otha fokes. But not to you.

God ain' interested in saving arrogant, DEAD, self deceived fokes from The Pit. You wanna wake up? Then you gotta be humble. I'm tawkin' some serious humble. Then **SNAP** you just wake up to life.

it all looks like conjecture more than anything...

Well... it ain't. Bleeve what you want, but I'm tellin' ya straight up... it ain't.

and then the likes of you could point to the 'inborn conscience' of each and every human being who ever lived (or will live)... but i find that it is a very easy thing to destroy such a thing a conscience... a simple obliteration of trust in a personal relationship will do...

That's prolly because your conscience is dead. Most fokes' consciences is dead. But there is a Personal Relationship wherein trust can never be obliterated. But to have it, you gotta be woke up.

but what's the point of arguing with the likes of you...

No point at all.

i was at least kind of like that once... 'knowing' that you have found favor with 'the bees knees' and that your 'earthly enemies' are going to burn forever... well that's powerful, humanly gratifying stuff....

Well if it gratified you to take pleasure in other fokes damnation, then I suggest to you that you ain't had nothing but something you just up and created just to give you some jollies. I ain' happy about The Pit, but I know cryin' about it ain' gon' keep you out of it.

and who would i or anyone else be to tell you that you might be mistaken?... or that god might change 'his' mind about things now and then...

Nobody. You are noone who can tell me I might be mistaken. You prolly a dead man, maaan.

But hey! You keep actin' as if I'm trinta force you into something. Maan, I'm tellin you I ain't trinta do nothing of the kind. I bleeve what is obviously true to me. If you can't see it but want to see it, then maybe I can help. If you don't want to see it, then stay as you are. Now that's it. I'm not trinta do nothin' against you. You gettin' all bent up about my bleefs like I'm forcin' them on you. I ain't.

in the end i'm simply glad that the judgement may be left to the 'christ' and not to the likes of yourself or 'prolife'...

Hehe. You glad you are gonna be judged by christ and yet this is the same christ you claim you don't be liking. Dass so whacked maan! Alrighty - go head own wid yo bad self.

because 'lord knows' i have no conscious recollection of ever having asked for this thing called 'life'...

Dass because you prolly dead and so you won't ever have some dang "conscious recollection" of askin' for life. Maybe you oughta just ask for life right now, so you can have some dang "conscious recollection" of it.

Fokes be thinking they are alive, when the dang truth is right in their faces - I mean in their dang eyes! Fokes be innately ignorant, just like dead folks. That oughta tell 'em something. But NOOOOOOOOO. Dey jus keep own prancin' on the dang earth like dey special, and they don't be knowing a dang thing. Go own then.

and if you think in every case it is a gift then i would submit that you're sadly mistaken...

Real life is DEFINEY a gift, and this is true in every dang case. What most fokes have here in nature ain' no gift. It is a dang curse.
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