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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH

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To: J.B.C. who wrote (338832)1/6/2003 6:36:08 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (3) of 769668
 
Jim,

I don't find Baldur to be anti-American in the least. What I do find a vast confusion in your view that the illegitimate criminal conspiracy that is running this country
consortiumnews.com
should be equated with "America". The Bush Criminal Cabal is the antithesis of what we were all brought up to believe in as the ideal we call "America".

The myth is that we are all created equal. Bush believes that he and his bribers deserves special privileges as the elite.

The myth is that America has a benign foreign policy that promotes "freedom and democracy". The truth is that we have ruthlessly suppressed democracy on four continents in the last 60 years. Just some of the popular and democratically elected leaders we have murdered and removed in Arbenz, Mossadeq, Allende, the Peronistas in Argentina in the 1970's and others. Instead of promoting "freedom and democracy", what the U.S. government really promotes is quisling states and compliant foreign leaders who bend to the will of American commercial interests.

I hope that you can somehow overcome what Joan Didion has labeled "the infantilization" of Americans. Your debating point so far in our conversation indicate that your support of the Bush Crime Family is based on the shallowest of understanding of what they are really up to. Which isn't a pretty picture for 98% of all Americans.

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Re: . Baldur tends to cut and paste or links to articles that support his hatred,

You criticize someone for actually providing evidence for their viewpoint? You make me laugh. At you. This technique, called "research", if you didn't know, is infinitely superior to the silly regurgitations of talk radio propaganda that seems to be the pygmy level of intellectual achievement for most of the supports of the Bush Crime Family on this thread. Facts matter. Just not to most people who cower in George Bush's propwash.

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Re: Looking at only the middle article that you linked,

Well, take your time. The other two items are equally interesting and build a hell of a fact case that George Bush is a hypocrite, a wannebee dictator and a liar of monumental proportions.

If you think it is anti-American to try to save the great principles upon which this nation was founded while you cower in abject loyalty to an illegitimate leader, then you have my pity. Your's is a view of patriotism that is astonishingly shallow and infantile.

Here's another link for you. You'll probably dismiss this one too, on your way to small-minded bigotry and unthinking loyalty to a man who intends to betray you. Just like Poppy Bush betrayed the very Shiites around Basra who he allowed Saddam to cut down in the aftermath of the Gulf War, now being inundated with propaganda pieces from our Department of Death asking them to once again allow themselves to be betrayed.

nybooks.com

Well worth anyone's time to read. America is being betrayed by its leadership. We must not allow it to happen.

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Re: How about you, no gut's to take a stand against an anti American propagandist?

I certainly will, up to the point that they pass a new "Sedition Act" and it becomes illegal to criticize the illegitimate pResident, the most anti-American propagandist on the planet.

-Ray
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